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11-16-2014, 01:53 PM
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Reduced weight recoil springs for 9 compact
Does anybody know where I can get reduced weight recoil springs for the 9c. I tried cutting down full length springs but it doesn't work very well. By the time they are short enough to cycle they don't keep the slide in battery very well.
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11-16-2014, 03:13 PM
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Are you using extra light handloads in it? The design of the gun is only going to work within a certain range of load/spring combinations. The more compact the gun the more narrow the range, which is what it sounds like you're running into.
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11-16-2014, 09:55 PM
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So, are you saying that a cut down FS spring should work if it is within that narrow range? It's a range gun for my wife and I'm trying to make it easier to rack.
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11-16-2014, 10:32 PM
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It's a range gun for my wife and I'm trying to make it easier to rack.
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Racking the slide is not about strength.
It is all about technique.
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11-16-2014, 11:27 PM
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No, if you are using factory loads you don't want to cut the spring. That would end up with more recoil and possible damage/malfunction of the gun. There are several methods to help with racking the slide, always being aware of muzzle direction and trigger finger. Easiest way I've found is pulling the slide back while pushing the gun forward, working equally with each hand.
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11-16-2014, 11:33 PM
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OKFC05, I genuinely appreciate your input and agree completely. However, I shoot with 2 women with hand strength issues. I have transitioned both of them from double action revolvers, which they had to shoot with both index fingers on the trigger, to semi auto pistols. I have gotten them both to be able to rack their slides under almost all circumstances. They have both completed 4-day Front Sight classes successfully. The sole remaining problem is locking the slide open, specifically in clearing a type 3 malfunction. They both have compromised hand strength, one from an old injury and one from mild arthritis, so I'm thinking that just a little help from a lighter recoil spring might do the trick. They're both good shooters and have fallen in love with the sport so the type 3 issue isn't a show stopper, but it is a problem that should be addressed.
I have read your link and have them both using those techniques successfully, except the slide lock.
Thanks again for your input. Any additional thoughts?
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No, if you are using factory loads you don't want to cut the spring. That would end up with more recoil and possible damage/malfunction of the gun. There are several methods to help with racking the slide, always being aware of muzzle direction and trigger finger. Easiest way I've found is pulling the slide back while pushing the gun forward, working equally with each hand.
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Wolf Springs are suppliers of lighter weight springs. And like the above poster says, hold the pistol close to your body, reach over with your left and grab the slide (not blocking the ejection port) and push the right hand holding the frame forward. When the slide is back all the way, or the frame is forward all the way, let go. Don't ride the slide when it is closing, just let it snap shut.
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11-17-2014, 02:36 PM
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Going with a full size 9mm would help, but works against concealment. It's too bad there aren't more guns along the line of the Beretta 86, that had the tip-up barrel that didn't require racking the slide to load the chamber.
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01-22-2020, 11:33 AM
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reduced power recoil springs
I have been searching the internet for days looking for a captured reduced power recoil spring for my M&P 9MMc without any luck. I, also looked for my LC9 and my SR9 FS. No luck.
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Lighter than stock recoil springs can make the slide easier to rack, but will also result in higher slide velocity during cycling and can induce malfunctions and even damage to the pistol.
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01-22-2020, 01:24 PM
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Playing with lighter or heavier recoil springs than the pistol was designed for is asking for trouble in pretty much any make or model imho.
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01-22-2020, 02:39 PM
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Lighter than stock recoil springs can make the slide easier to rack, but will also result in higher slide velocity during cycling and can induce malfunctions and even damage to the pistol.
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Thanks for the input but my situation is I had a Glock 34 that had some work done on it for competition and one was a 14LB recoil spring so it would function with my light reloads. I sold the pistol and I have 500 of those light reloads left. I am looking for a simple way to be able to shoot them up.
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Sounds like you may want to try the new M&P EZ 9 or 380. I bought my wife the new 9mm. She can rack it with no trouble. I thinks it's shoots well too.
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Playing with lighter or heavier recoil springs than the pistol was designed for is asking for trouble in pretty much any make or model imho.
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I put hundreds of rounds thru my glock with a 14 LB recoil spring without a problem. I am just wanting the spring long enough to burn up 500 reloads so I don't have to pull them.
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[QUOTE=KayakPlinker;140651780]Sounds like you may want to try the new M&P EZ 9 or 380. I bought my wife the new 9mm. She can rack it with no trouble. I thinks it's shoots well too.
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It is not the racking that I have a problem with. I had a glock 34 with a 14 LB recoil spring that I used in local matches. I have since sold the glock. I am wanting to use a lighter than normal recoil spring to burn up 500 light reloads I have left from the glock. They are so light, they won't cycle the action on any of my 9's.
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