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MP trigger job advice needed
Have older FS MP-9mm, (build date Feb, 08) (and know that some newer parts will not fit??)
Bought used recently, gun show, from deputy.
He said, and it appears to have had only a couple hundred rounds through it.
Going to do a APEX trigger job, as it really needs help, was thinking of going with the (Apex Tactical M&P Forward Set Sear & Trigger Kit - Polymer (FSS)
I do want a smoother, less take-up, better reset, and a (little lighter) pull.
Trigger pull—will be around (5.5#)—with this kit---this weapon will be used for (nightstand) and OWB carry on the property, does this sound like the way to go??
What else should I consider—from APEX???
All the (other) good stuff—(striker/slide, ect) is back order/out of stock EVERYWHERE—and cannot be had at any price—I check everyday!--(do u have a extra kit for sale??)
Any and all advice will be appreciated—as I know this has been discussed many times—(and I have (TRIED) to figure it out—but now ready to order.
Rocky
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05-30-2015, 12:48 PM
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With that old of an M&P, you will have the small (1/16") sear spring. I'd recommend getting a new sear block (when you can find one in stock, G&R Tactical is your best bet). Apex doesn't recommend using the FSS with the small sear spring. Personally, if I was going to only use it for nightstand and property carry, I don't know if I would worry about the trigger. I have a stock trigger in my EDC and it shoots fine. (I do have the FSS in all my competition guns, but nothing in them is stock).
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05-30-2015, 02:10 PM
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I put the FSS and aluminum trigger kit in my 2009 M&P and love it. I used the light spring since I mostly use it to poke holes in paper; trigger pull measured almost exactly 4.5 pounds. As Bkreutz mentioned, you will need to find an updated sear housing block. G&R shows having some in stock right now, depending if you need the thumb safety or not.
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05-30-2015, 04:37 PM
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I put the FSS and aluminum trigger kit in my 2009 M&P and love it. I used the light spring since I mostly use it to poke holes in paper; trigger pull measured almost exactly 4.5 pounds. As Bkreutz mentioned, you will need to find an updated sear housing block. G&R shows having some in stock right now, depending if you need the thumb safety or not.
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I checked G&R- and they do have the sear housing block in stock, without the TS--here is my dilemma 50.00min order, finding something else I can use-( suggestions) real NOOB--that is in stock is a real challenge!!
How about if I use the
Apex Tactical
M&P Duty / Carry Action Enhancement (DCAEK)
would that be a pretty good upgrade--and fit in my older MP 9mm
thanks Rocky
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05-30-2015, 05:41 PM
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Projects are fun but can be frustrating. When you add up the value of your time as well as parts and mistakes, sometimes just spending the $500 for a new gun makes more sense, to me anyway.
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I checked G&R- and they do have the sear housing block in stock, without the TS--here is my dilemma 50.00min order, finding something else I can use-(suggestions) real NOOB--that is in stock is a real challenge!!
How about if I use the
Apex Tactical
M&P Duty / Carry Action Enhancement (DCAEK)
would that be a pretty good upgrade--and fit in my older MP 9mm
thanks Rocky
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See if they have the updated slide lock in stock, if not just order a few recoil springs or strikers to get to $50.00
Looks like the slide stock is available as well, that puts you over 50 http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin...tion&key=42427
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05-30-2015, 11:01 PM
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I went ahead and bit the bullet, and ordered the new —(sear housing block) from G&R--could NOT get the slide--------------darn it!!
now on to the trigger upgrade!!
Rocky
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05-30-2015, 11:40 PM
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I went ahead and bit the bullet, and ordered the new —(sear housing block) from G&R--could NOT get the slide--------------darn it!!
now on to the trigger upgrade!!
Rocky
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Fit an APEX RAM (G&R sell them) it will be better than the slide lock with the hump. I don't know if anyone has tried to fit a new slide lock and RAM I guess you would get a double click?
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05-31-2015, 12:20 AM
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Fit an APEX RAM (G&R sell them) it will be better than the slide lock with the hump. I don't know if anyone has tried to fit a new slide lock and RAM I guess you would get a double click?
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SO--------does that APEX RAM fit in my older MP??? (08)
mine does not have that (hole)--forget what that 2nd hole is called??
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05-31-2015, 12:29 AM
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SO--------does that APEX RAM fit in my older MP??? (08)
mine does not have that (hole)--forget what that 2nd hole is called??
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This is the SHB compatible with the RAM. It fits in that big hole. If your 08 M&P has this hole it will fit. TS models cannot fit a RAM even if they don't have a TS installed.
S&W Sear Housing Block with PC SEAR NON-TS Models at G and R Tactical
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Thank you ATF, and many others for your insight/help--as you can tell I'm a real new=be on this!!
I did go to G&R, and get the sear block, you referenced--here is another question about the (RAM)
Are you ready for the Apex RAM? | Apex Tactical Specialties
my MP does NOT have that (frame plug)---it does NOT have a TS
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If you have the square cut outs in your frame it is a TS model regardless of whether the TS is actually fitted.
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Projects are fun but can be frustrating. When you add up the value of your time as well as parts and mistakes, sometimes just spending the $500 for a new gun makes more sense, to me anyway.
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I may be fast approaching what CB3 has stated---
my MP does have the (small square plugs) on both sides, next to the slide--(I think I had read/learned that from before, and forgot!!
I think I have read that the (Sear Housing Block with PC SEAR NON-TS Models) I purchased without TS can be modified to work---(for the trigger install) I will just have to forget the RAM----correct???????
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Yes you cannot fit a RAM if you have square cut outs in the frame and square cut outs mean it's a TS model you need the TS SHB to fit the APEX kit and the new slide stop for an audible reset.
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Yes you cannot fit a RAM if you have square cut outs in the frame and square cut outs mean it's a TS model you need the TS SHB to fit the APEX kit and the new slide stop for an audible reset.
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Again thanks ATF--
I believe I have read on this site (somewhere) that the (NON-TS-SHB) can be made to work in my older model----
cause I messed up and got the wrong one--
your thoughts please--or anyone????
I just want to do the trigger job????-----and fit???
The audible reset may have to wait until G&R, gets that slide, striker kit back in!
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