|
|
07-11-2015, 11:23 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 91
Likes: 4
Liked 27 Times in 19 Posts
|
|
Won't always go into battery. Shield 9.
I've noticed when I do a press check (1/16" of an inch or less) and release the slide (magazine inserted), the slide will stop just short of fully forward in battery 25% of the time.
Win 147 "Defend" ammo.
Apex Duty/Carry upgrade.
Rem Oil in all the recommended places.
8+1 Magazine fully seated.
A light tap on the back of the slide and the gun goes to full battery.
Have not been to the range yet with the Apex upgrade so maybe it has to "shoot in".
Any thing else I should be checking?
Thanks
|
07-11-2015, 11:32 PM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 1,001
Likes: 259
Liked 637 Times in 318 Posts
|
|
Sounds like you don't have many rounds through the gun. Put 200 rounds through it and see if you still have any problems. Mine was stiff at first too.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
07-12-2015, 12:04 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: WV
Posts: 144
Likes: 1
Liked 40 Times in 32 Posts
|
|
I've got about 5-600 rounds through mine, and I just did a press check.
Nope, won't go fully into battery without a nudge.
|
07-12-2015, 12:42 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,885
Likes: 1,683
Liked 2,357 Times in 1,115 Posts
|
|
Mine's over 3yrs old now and when the chamber is loaded AND the mag is full, mine doesn't always go back into battery if I press check, which I only do when someone posts a thread like this.
Mine will not hang up with a full mag and empty chamber, nor does it hang up with one in the chamber and a NON- Topped off mag. It appears that the combination of the friction/pressure of having one in the chamber AND the upward pressure of a full mag, is just enough to create the 'perfect condition' of not going back into battery.
The thing is, in the 3yrs I've been carrying it, I have never inadvertently nudged it out of battery, during holstering, or otherwise daily carry. The only instances I remember reading about Out of Battery instances, were during deliberate Press Check... None (that I recall) were caused inadvertently.
So, if you're worried about it going out of battery at times OTHER than during a Press Check, you don't really need to. During those few times you do a Press Check, just keep nudging it back into battery, as you have been. Go shoot that thing.
|
07-12-2015, 01:36 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 191
Likes: 34
Liked 60 Times in 43 Posts
|
|
Grease the front of the barrel hood where the slide locks up.
I've yet to have this issue.
|
07-12-2015, 09:08 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Michigan
Posts: 723
Likes: 1,609
Liked 415 Times in 226 Posts
|
|
Is a press check really necessary when there's a loaded chamber indicator?
__________________
MSP - Retired
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
07-12-2015, 10:09 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 826
Likes: 888
Liked 973 Times in 356 Posts
|
|
I don't see the big deal here, you do a press check (yep it has one in the chamber) let go of the slide it is not back in battery nudge the slide, its in battery. Time to holster, put thumb on back of slide (like I was trained to do) this keeps gun in battery while holstering. when gun is drawn there is no worry of it going out of battery, so can someone explain to me why this is a big deal.
|
The Following 3 Users Like Post:
|
|
07-12-2015, 10:48 AM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Washington State
Posts: 831
Likes: 815
Liked 467 Times in 244 Posts
|
|
I can't think of a time where you'd be softely letting the slide go forward, but if there ever was such such a time you'd probably have time to smartly smack the back of the slide to ensure it was fully in battery.
Also if you're worried about it being pushed out of battery when holstering it, I would think it would be pulled into battery on drawing the pistol.
|
07-12-2015, 11:43 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Jun 2015
Posts: 91
Likes: 4
Liked 27 Times in 19 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob O
Is a press check really necessary when there's a loaded chamber indicator?
|
In low light, the rim of even the shiniest brass is hard for me to see through the small portal on the top of the slide.
I'll try greasing the hood.
I know the engineers worry these things to death, but all systems are compromises. Is the recoil spring system's compromise the last millimeter into battery (on a press check) in favor of appropriate recoil operation on firing and going into battery on a slide release from full lock back? Hmmm....
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
07-12-2015, 10:06 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 1,868
Likes: 1,762
Liked 1,284 Times in 694 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob O
Is a press check really necessary when there's a loaded chamber indicator?
|
I was wondering this same thing. Any gun I have in service (EDC or night stand) is always loaded with a round in the chamber. I don't have to look, the only time there's not a round chambered and mag in place, is when it's being cleaned or cleared at the range. That's just me, though.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
07-12-2015, 11:14 PM
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Posts: 610
Likes: 79
Liked 493 Times in 210 Posts
|
|
Every time I see this topic (which is often) I'm reminded of that old joke:
Patient: Doc, It hurts when I do this!
Doctor: Don't do that!
In and gone before the dire predictions of what's going to happen when someone grapples with you for your gun.
|
The Following User Likes This Post:
|
|
07-13-2015, 12:52 AM
|
|
Member
|
|
|
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: STL Area: Belleville, IL
Posts: 1,135
Likes: 2,446
Liked 777 Times in 407 Posts
|
|
Aren't all shields equipped w/Loaded Chamber Indicator? If so... why do the press check?
mb
|
07-13-2015, 12:58 AM
|
|
US Veteran
|
|
|
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,885
Likes: 1,683
Liked 2,357 Times in 1,115 Posts
|
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by martybee
Aren't all shields equipped w/Loaded Chamber Indicator? If so... why do the press check?
mb
|
That's a question/debate that's been going on almost as long as the Double-Stack vs Single-Stack debates and Glock vs M&P vs [Fill-In-The-Blank] debates and they never end well (bring Popcorn).
|
|
Posting Rules
|
|
|
|
|