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Old 10-25-2016, 08:34 PM
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I guess I was lucky last night at the range. Middle of a magazine, didn't notice a thing until the next round wouldn't chamber. Wasn't expecting to find the last round stuck in the barrel. Probably would not have been pretty if it was a little farther down and I was able to fire the next round.
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Old 10-25-2016, 08:58 PM
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Had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago with my Pro Series 9mm. In my case I saw smoke coming out of the wrong end of the barrel. I looked and there was no light at the end of the tunnel. I think we were both fortunate.
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Glad all is well, did you get the squib cleared, was it a reload, no powder just the primer fired?
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Looks like it was a primer only load, any powder at all would of driven it into the rifling. The other key is I doubt the gun was able to cycle, so that was another tip off that you had to rack the slide to chamber the next round after the pop. This is not all that uncommon, when RO'ing pretty typical to run across one at least every couple weeks. You have to be quick to stop the shooter in the middle of a run as most of the time they are keyed up enough and already performing remedial action.

good catch or you could of had a mess.
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I have had two. No damage, noticed both.
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Had the same thing happen to me a couple of years ago with my Pro Series 9mm. In my case I saw smoke coming out of the wrong end of the barrel. I looked and there was no light at the end of the tunnel. I think we were both fortunate.
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If you don't hear the normal bang and feel the normal recoil, STOP and check the bore.

I have only experienced 2 squibs. The first one was due to an old batch of '80s Norma 38spl +P. I shot one cylinder and was feeling a difference in recoil between rounds. Then handed it off to the wife to fire a cylinder and the second round made a low pop. I could barely hear it with plugs in. She cocked the hammer back on my Detective Special to fire again, and I immediately ran up to her screaming NO NO NO. Sure enough, a slug was lodged in the barrel. Glad I caught that. The rest of the box got pulled and I recycled the bullets and cases.

Second time was one of my reloads. Not sure how it got past me, but it did. Pulled the trigger and got a low pop. I knew to stop and check the bore for which I found a slug lodged.

Now I always keep a piece of brass rod in my range bag in case I need to pound one out. Glad you are safe and didn't damage your gun. From now on, you will probably be extra cautious to the situation, and that is a good thing. A lesson learned 'not' the hard way.

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To the OP; what brand of ammo were you using?
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A perfect example of why I often carry a BUG.

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it's been a couple years, but I had several squibs and hang fires out of a batch of herters ammo I got from cabelas. It was 7.62x39 for my AK. Very scary. Like you, fortunately the next round didn't set because the squib bullet was stuck in the neck. It was very scary. The hang fires were also very scary. Some seemed like it was a 1/2 sec from the click to the bang. Needless to say, I don't buy herters ammo anymore. Tula either, as that is who actually made the ammo and repackaged it for cabelas. To Cabela's credit. They did take the ammo back and even gave me credit for the few boxes I went thru. But to my dismay, they left the whole lot on the shelf. There were other reports online about the same.
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We were shooting Tula through our Beretta 92s. Had several no fires so just racked the slide, kicked them out and went back at it. I wasn't paying close enough attention when my wife had one. Then I noticed flame as she was shooting and told her to stop. Got home and found this.

I still have about 8 boxes of Tula. It sat for a year and i thought i would carefully use it up in my M&P9c. Second mag one stuck in the chamber. I have brass rods in my AR bags but none w/ my pistol stuff so I was done. Got home and found the case really stuck although it had been fired. Had to drill out the primer and a bit more before I could get it out. Fortunately the 9c is fine. Next trip to the river the Tula will be gone.
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I have been a handloader for over 25 yrs. and hadn't made a squib for a long time. That is until 2 yrs. ago while shooting in an IDPA match. The gun was an S&W Model 22-4 chambered for 45 ACP in moonclips. I was shooting handloaded 45 GAP hardball when the squib occurred. The RO heard it but couldn't stop me in time and I fired again. Both bullets went through the cardboard target....go figure. I retired from that match.
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This is a good lesson to us all.

A squib will almost never have enough power to cycle the slide. They are easy to notice because the recoil will be much less than normal.

I've never personally had one. I hope I never do.
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Hopefully, OP will come back and talk a little about the pic. It looks like the head is torn or blown off the case and the case body is still in the chamber with the bullet lodged ahead of it.

It seems like moving the bullet would have been the path of least resistance instead of blowing the head off the case.

So, I'm curious if that's the way it was found or did someone manage to tear the case head off? And, did it cycle the action enough to pick up the next round?
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