No Trigger Safety? - Revised

T2C · Oct 26, 2016

I received my brand new Shield 9mm yesterday. I was checking it over today before heading out to the range and noticed there is no trigger safety on the hinged trigger. Range trip cancelled.

Were any of the Shields shipped without a trigger safety? Could this be a Performance Center trigger?

sschrick · Oct 26, 2016

Picture of your trigger would help. The Shield has a two-piece hinged trigger. The lower portion of the trigger needs to be depressed in order for the trigger safety to disengage. If you press only on the upper portion, the trigger should not release the striker.

scott_0 · Oct 26, 2016

all M&P's have that type trigger, why would you cancel your range trip? did you not research the weapon at all before buying it?

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T2C · Oct 26, 2016

scott_0 said:
all M&P's have that type trigger, why would you cancel your range trip? did you not research the weapon at all before buying it?

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If parts are missing, I will have S&W repair the handgun before I fire it.

Old and Grumpy · Oct 26, 2016

Looks like both of mine? Do not see anything out of the ordinary.

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Muss Muggins · Oct 26, 2016

The Shield "trigger safety" neither looks like nor functions like the Glock version, if that is your concern . . .

T2C · Oct 26, 2016

Old and Grumpy said:
Looks like both of mine? Do not see anything out of the ordinary.

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Neither of yours have a tab sticking out of the top back of the trigger? The back of the upper part of the trigger is hollow on mine. I can press the upper part of the trigger and the striker is released.

Shield9mm · Oct 26, 2016

OP is right don't see it either, that's weird. It should look like this.

Fastcast · Oct 26, 2016

Yep, looks like the tab that catches on the frame is missing...

Old and Grumpy · Oct 26, 2016

I will look when I get in from the barn

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Mr.Shield · Oct 26, 2016

I just checked mine and it has the tab sticking out. Looks like yours is missing.

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MichiganScott · Oct 26, 2016

Yep, parts missing. Contact customer service at the mother ship and they will sen you a call tag for return at no cost and little hassle to you.

If you wish, you could still shoot it first. Just treat it like a cocked and unlocked 1911.

Old and Grumpy · Oct 26, 2016

Both of mine have it

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Rastoff · Oct 26, 2016

Push the trigger forward. Does it show up then?

Also, it is not a "trigger" safety, it's a drop safety. It serves the function of preventing the trigger from moving all the way back if the pistol is dropped on the rear of the slide. The gun will function safely as long as you don't drop it on a hard surface and on the back of the slide.

You can read about it in this thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/329404-trigger-really-safety.html

Miljet · Oct 26, 2016

A couple of years ago there was a recall on the safety. All the parts were there but some of them had something keeping the tab at the rear of the trigger from extending as it should. I remember doing the recommended check on mine and it worked fine so I never worried about it.

T2C · Oct 27, 2016

Rastoff said:
Push the trigger forward. Does it show up then?

Also, it is not a "trigger" safety, it's a drop safety. It serves the function of preventing the trigger from moving all the way back if the pistol is dropped on the rear of the slide. The gun will function safely as long as you don't drop it on a hard surface and on the back of the slide.

You can read about it in this thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/329404-trigger-really-safety.html

No, it's missing. My brand new, never fired, S&W Shield 9mm will be heading back to S&W tomorrow.

scooter123 · Oct 27, 2016

Rastoff said:
Push the trigger forward. Does it show up then?

Also, it is not a "trigger" safety, it's a drop safety. It serves the function of preventing the trigger from moving all the way back if the pistol is dropped on the rear of the slide. The gun will function safely as long as you don't drop it on a hard surface and on the back of the slide.

You can read about it in this thread: http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/329404-trigger-really-safety.html

I cannot agree with this statement, in fact IMO it's just plain wrong.

First, if the pistol were dropped on the REAR of the slide the bottom part of the trigger would be carried towards the REAR of the pistol due to simple MOMENTUM.

Second, I have rather narrow fingers and if I take a "High" grip on a S&W M&P 9mm I can sometimes find the trigger is locked because my finger is too high on the trigger to swing the bottom half far enough to disengage the trigger safety. Because of this my carry choice has been either a Sig Sauer with no trigger safety at all or a Ruger with the classic split style Trigger Safety copied from Glock. BTW, I have never understood why Glock as allowed these copies and suspect this type of trigger safety may actually have been patented way before Glock ever existed.

Third, S&W advertising literature describes this as a TRIGGER SAFETY.

fallhunter · Oct 27, 2016

Its not missing. Put your finger behind the bottom of the trigger and push out on it. I bet it will pop out.

There was a recall on Shields some time back, around three years ago. I had one that had to be sent back. All is good now. It is supposed to have a trigger safety.

The gun would be safe to shoot still, and in a way, I wish I would never have sent that Shield in. I like the Sig P320 with no trigger safety, I wish all my guns were like that.

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zymurgeist · Oct 27, 2016

scooter123 said:
I cannot agree with this statement, in fact IMO it's just plain wrong.

First, if the pistol were dropped on the REAR of the slide the bottom part of the trigger would be carried towards the REAR of the pistol due to simple MOMENTUM.

Second, I have rather narrow fingers and if I take a "High" grip on a S&W M&P 9mm I can sometimes find the trigger is locked because my finger is too high on the trigger to swing the bottom half far enough to disengage the trigger safety. Because of this my carry choice has been either a Sig Sauer with no trigger safety at all or a Ruger with the classic split style Trigger Safety copied from Glock. BTW, I have never understood why Glock as allowed these copies and suspect this type of trigger safety may actually have been patented way before Glock ever existed.

Third, S&W advertising literature describes this as a TRIGGER SAFETY.

It's not a patentable item by Glock because it's prior art as you surmised. The S&W M&P is very different from a Glock and not a copy at all. Glock did not invent the striker fired pistol so by that logic it's a copy of the H&K. It's called a trigger safety for marketing reasons but it should not be confused with a trigger block safety which would actually prevent the trigger from being pulled entirely.

T2C · Oct 27, 2016

fallhunter said:
Its not missing. Put your finger behind the bottom of the trigger and push out on it. I bet it will pop out.

There was a recall on Shields some time back, around three years ago. I had one that had to be sent back. All is good now. It is supposed to have a trigger safety.

The gun would be safe to shoot still, and in a way, I wish I would never have sent that Shield in. I like the Sig P320 with no trigger safety, I wish all my guns were like that.

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It's missing. Fed Ex will be picking up the Shield today.

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