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The 2.0 now has 1/8" solid pins securing the locking block and sear housing. Can these same pins be used in the 1.0 in exchange for the 1.0's roll pins? 
2.0 Solid Pins In The 1.0?
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I own both, but I'm not going to try it unless it's proof positive. It looks like I will be calling S&W tomorrow. 
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I called S&W this AM and M&P tech dude said the pins and roll pins will not interchange. 
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I called S&W this AM and M&P tech dude said the pins and roll pins will not interchange.
shocking...
The S&W customer service people don't know jack about the 2.0's yet. The couple of them that I've talked to (one of them was "tech support") seemed to think that pretty much only the mags are interchangeable but there's actually quite a few things that are. that's not to say that the pins actually are interchangable, because I haven't tried that but what I'm saying is don't just take the word of a customer service rep just because one of them says no.
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shocking...
The S&W customer service people don't know jack about the 2.0's yet. The couple of them that I've talked to (one of them was "tech support") seemed to think that pretty much only the mags are interchangeable but there's actually quite a few things that are. that's not to say that the pins actually are interchangable, because I haven't tried that but what I'm saying is don't just take the word of a customer service rep just because one of them says no.
I didn't talk to a CSR for the answer. A CSR did answer the phone and told me to hold. Then, when a man answered the phone, he answered,"This is technician Scott, how may I help you?" Do you think I was hornswoggled?
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I didn't talk to a CSR for the answer. A CSR did answer the phone and told me to hold. Then, when a man answered the phone, he answered,"This is technician Scott, how may I help you?" Do you think I was hornswoggled?
all I was suggesting is don't take their word on 2.0 questions just yet unless you talk to someone who actually was involved in building them. they won't come out and admit that they don't know... they'll just say no if its something at all out of the realm of standard.
If they are interchangable, good luck getting any from them. they still don't have parts available for sale....just warranty
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The 2.0 now has 1/8" solid pins securing the locking block and sear housing. Can these same pins be used in the 1.0 in exchange for the 1.0's roll pins?
Typically solid pins are tapered, as well as the holes they go into. This is because if the pins and the holes were straight, they would have a tendency to "walk" out of the hole. Straight holes usually specify either a roll pin (like the original M&P's) or a spring pin (like the later 1.0's) because the spring action keeps them in place. Typically taper pins have to be removed from right to left (looking from the rear of the gun) and installed the opposite way. I haven't measured the pins on a 2.0 but I suspect they will be tapered. Whether a spring pin would work, I don't know, but suspect that a properly sized spring pin would compress enough on the small side of the hole to work, but that would have to be confirmed by trial.
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The pins on the 2.0 are basically just like the are on a glock. Straight pins that are just ever so slightly larger diameter than the hole so they are held in place by either the elasticity of the frame material or by having a small groove or something like that another part sort of locks into. Like on a glock how the slide stop/release sort of sits in the groove of the trigger pin and keeps it from coming out. Or on AR-15 trigger pins how the springs sit in the groove to try and keep them from walking. Still happens sometimes though I guess. I haven't had it happen but I've heard of it.
The 2.0 now has 1/8" solid pins securing the locking block and sear housing. Can these same pins be used in the 1.0 in exchange for the 1.0's roll pins?
What is the problem you are trying to fix?
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A fresh roll pin can always be depended on to provide a tight fit in a slightly worn/enlarged hole where a solid pin cannot.
To work with roll pins successfully, you have to invest in a properly sized roll pin starter punch and a properly sized roll pin punch to finish the job.
If you try to work with roll pins with standard punches, you will be totally frustrated and you'll damage the roll pin and the frame every time.
A little penetrating oil helps a lot, too.
To work with roll pins successfully, you have to invest in a properly sized roll pin starter punch and a properly sized roll pin punch to finish the job.
If you try to work with roll pins with standard punches, you will be totally frustrated and you'll damage the roll pin and the frame every time.
A little penetrating oil helps a lot, too.
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There is no problem. I was just curious.
