Just think how "dumb" H&K was with the P7??
Silly thing in the front of the grip
Should of, would of, could of, bought one way back when
Silly thing in the front of the grip
Should of, would of, could of, bought one way back when
New Shield 380 EZ... Nope. Junk.
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One would assume S&W has done some market research on this and found some interest. One way or another, the market will decide if it’s a viable carry gun for a niche market, or a Dodo we’ll chuckle about on the forum ten years down the road.
As for me, I’m interested in anything that can bring more people to shooting, or let people with physical limitations participate in sport or self defense.
As for me, I’m interested in anything that can bring more people to shooting, or let people with physical limitations participate in sport or self defense.
Or a 1911, Colt 1903 or Centennial, I assume?
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Only because most .380 guns are smaller and lighter than 9mm guns - not because they're .380 caliber.
To each his own. The Model 27 was not irrelevant because you could get a M57 or M29 on the same frame. S&W does quite well selling Shields in 9mm, 40 S&W and .45 ACP. I was planning on buying a .45 Shield last year when I won a 9mm in a raffle. It has a manual safety I would not have ordered had a bought the gun. I have come to appreciate both the 9mm and the safety.
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You need to try the G42. Not snappy at all. Soft shooting and accurate.
Yes, 380s are small frames but they are still a 9mm (short)
the 380 and 9mm are actually .355
Other names for .380 ACP include .380 Auto, 9mm Browning, 9mm Corto, 9mm Kurz, 9mm Short, 9×17mm and 9 mm Browning Court (
The USA gets all befuddled with the metric system,
9 x 17 vs 9x19
What made a lot of them "snappy", is that they were blowbacks and not locked breech.
Is a 40 SW a 40 caliber or is it still a 10mm.
Despite all the Debbie-downers, as soon as the LGS range gets some, I'll take the wife over to try it. They usually have a free "try it out" promotion when one of the bigger mfgs' comes out with a new model.
I do believe there is a market for this, particularly with newcomers and women. I kinda like the button on the magazine follower if it's easy to manipulate. My 45 Shield mags were a bear to load the first few times, even with help from the uplula.
I do believe there is a market for this, particularly with newcomers and women. I kinda like the button on the magazine follower if it's easy to manipulate. My 45 Shield mags were a bear to load the first few times, even with help from the uplula.
JMB liked the grip safety and incorporated one in the original design for the pistol that became the 1911. The Army demanded the addition of a thumb safety.
As to a light trigger, in this video Jerry Miculek says the .380 Shield has "the lightest trigger I have ever seen on a Smith & Wesson product."
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All my 1911s, my Colt 1903, my FN Vest Pocket .25, and my S&W Safety Hammerless .38 have grip safeties. None has ever been an issue. They work fine and I am glad they are there.
This one would not bother me in the least.
This one would not bother me in the least.
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SW is not listening to their customers. Heres another handgun just proving they are swinging in the dark hoping the have a 'winner'. Seriously, how long did it take for the 2.0 compact to compete with G19? Grip safety, your not a 1911! if i wanted a grip safety thats not a 1911, i'd get a Springfield. SW, I think your near your end or have to much money to waste on stupid projects.
This gun is not targeted at me, nor do I have an interest in it, but I see how it might serve as a great option for many.
Unrelated point: the G&A article cites a 4.5lb trigger pull, and Miculek's comment in his video leads me to believe that Shooting Illustrated got the spec wrong if it said 6 lbs.
I dunno; maybe S&W would rather change that thinking to "If I wanted a grip safety that's not a 1911, I'd get a S&W or a Springfield."
Unrelated point: the G&A article cites a 4.5lb trigger pull, and Miculek's comment in his video leads me to believe that Shooting Illustrated got the spec wrong if it said 6 lbs.
I dunno; maybe S&W would rather change that thinking to "If I wanted a grip safety that's not a 1911, I'd get a S&W or a Springfield."
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Personally, it's not for me but I can see where it offers many features that will appeal to many.
I've seen a lot of negative comments about the grip safety, but to me I think it is a good idea for people who aren't the most experienced in handling firearms and especially for those that are worried about accidental discharges.
Having the grip safety gives an extra line of protection to prevent AD's for example if you're pocket carrying or a woman is carrying it in a purse. It might be possible to accidentally catch the trigger and fire the weapon accidentally, but now with the grip safety you have a back up safety that would help prevent that. It's also a safety that you don't have to consciously think about clicking off if you need your firearm in a hurry, because it automatically disengages the safety when you grip the gun.
Like I said, it's not for me but I can see it filling the needs of a lot of potential gun owners. I hope it does well.
I've seen a lot of negative comments about the grip safety, but to me I think it is a good idea for people who aren't the most experienced in handling firearms and especially for those that are worried about accidental discharges.
Having the grip safety gives an extra line of protection to prevent AD's for example if you're pocket carrying or a woman is carrying it in a purse. It might be possible to accidentally catch the trigger and fire the weapon accidentally, but now with the grip safety you have a back up safety that would help prevent that. It's also a safety that you don't have to consciously think about clicking off if you need your firearm in a hurry, because it automatically disengages the safety when you grip the gun.
Like I said, it's not for me but I can see it filling the needs of a lot of potential gun owners. I hope it does well.
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maybe your right. But i dont see this as anything 'new', but maybe to SW. Just a repeat of something that's already out there.
Sure to add to the 2,000,000 + Shields out there.
Perhaps they are listening to the people they WANT to be customers who are not already. If you don't like it, don't buy it. it's that simple.
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Gotta love the side tabs to make the mags easier to load; now THAT is a great idea and something I would love to have on my 45 mags:
FIRST LOOK: Easy-To-Rack S&W M&P 380 Shield
FIRST LOOK: Easy-To-Rack S&W M&P 380 Shield
batex
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For all those bashing this gun… Just because you cannot comprehend why someone would want this, does not mean that others don't see its benefits and value in the market. It's a given that the vast majority of those posting on forums like this are middle-age guys... not the market for this gun. This would be the ideal gun for my 84-year-old father-in-law or my 70-year-old mother. A 9mm, even the size of the shield, will kick too much and be too difficult to manipulate for this older generation. I love that S&W came out with this gun. If you don't like it just ignore it, but don't ignore it's benefits or target market.
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