Reduce trigger pull S&W 9mm Shield?

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Have model #187021. S&W says pull=6.5 pounds...not bad as is. How best to reduce pull on this model? Have a gunsmith "smooth" action OR install Apex "kit"? If so, which numbered kit? Have a local & highly recommended gunsmith for work. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks in advance?
 
Disassembly and Reassembly is easy, so if you have a few simple tools and a couple hours, you could do this DIY 'trigger job'.
S&W M&P Trigger Job

If that doesn't do it for you, just swapping the Sear for an Apex 'fully machined Sear' reduce the pull quite a bit.
 
I did the full Apex kit minus the trigger return spring. The whole kit really smoothed out the action and with a few tools was very easy to install. The Apex trigger return spring was too heavy for my taste but the reset was better. With the stock spring the reset isn’t as good but the pull is lighter and feels better to me.
 
Before you do anything, run several hundred rounds/dryfire cycles through the gun to get you and the trigger broken in. Then ask yourself if it still needs anything.

Also, what are your intended uses for the gun? It being a Shield, I expect carry/potential defensive use is on the list. If that's the case, you might be better off leaving it alone. You generally don't need to shoot itty-bitty groups for that usage. And, you can learn to do exactly that with practice.
 
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RobzGuns said:
Disassembly and Reassembly is easy, so if you have a few simple tools and a couple hours, you could do this DIY 'trigger job'.
S&W M&P Trigger Job

If that doesn't do it for you, just swapping the Sear for an Apex 'fully machined Sear' reduce the pull quite a bit.
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You truly dont need to be a gunsmith to do the M&P trigger job yourself.......... its easy
 
00 buck said:
The guy is asking how to lighten trigger pull

Not for internet legal advice...

It never fails
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Reread my post. I wasn't giving legal advice. I was providing perspective based upon experience to someone with an unknown experience/training level. I spent decades as a LE firearms instructor. You don't need/want breathe on it triggers on carry/defensive firearms.

The OP, and you can do what you want, they're your toys. But seeking hardware solutions to software (lack of training) problems isn't really the way to go.
 
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Wee Hooker said:
All you need is an $40 Apex sear installed to get you down near the 4-4.5# mark. ( IT will be crisper too.). It's an easy self install if you have basic mechanical skills.
Search here.Lots written on this topic.
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This worked for me. The Apex sear alone reduced the trigger pull from 6½ lbs. to 4½ lbs.
 
WR Moore said:
Reread my post. I wasn't giving legal advice. I was providing perspective based upon experience to someone with an unknown experience/training level. I spent decades as a LE firearms instructor. You don't need/want breathe on it triggers on carry/defensive firearms.

The OP, and you can do what you want, they're your toys. But seeking hardware solutions to software (lack of training) problems isn't really the way to go.
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If I want to lighten my trigger and ask how
I don't need your EXPERT opinions on why I should not
I'm not even going to list my credentials....because they and yours are not relevant on how to lighten trigger pull.
I do not have a big head or know it all attitude.
 
00 buck said:
If I want to lighten my trigger and ask how
I don't need your EXPERT opinions on why I should not
I'm not even going to list my credentials....because they and yours are not relevant on how to lighten trigger pull.
I do not have a big head or know it all attitude.
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I don't know, I thought it was good advice. My trigger felt much better after running a lot of ammo through it. After 8,000+ rounds, I am not sure I would like a lighter trigger. Okay, I take that back, I don't want a lighter trigger. My trigger got nice and smooth fairly quickly. In contrast, an old revolver I have, one that had the action smoothed when I bought it, is now too smooth and light, and I have had a second round fire off due to recoil causing the trigger to be depressed a second time. That revolver has many, many thousands of round through it, and will be worked on soon.

So my advice would be the same, if the OP has not shot the gun much, I would shoot it a while before lightening the trigger. Then if the trigger still seems too heavy, modify it. Of course if the OP just wants to modify the gun, go for it.
 
PHolster said:
I don't know, I thought it was good advice. My trigger felt much better after running a lot of ammo through it. After 8,000+ rounds, I am not sure I would like a lighter trigger. Okay, I take that back, I don't want a lighter trigger. My trigger got nice and smooth fairly quickly. In contrast, an old revolver I have, one that had the action smoothed when I bought it, is now too smooth and light, and I have had a second round fire off due to recoil causing the trigger to be depressed a second time. That revolver has many, many thousands of round through it, and will be worked on soon.

So my advice would be the same, if the OP has not shot the gun much, I would shoot it a while before lightening the trigger. Then if the trigger still seems too heavy, modify it. Of course if the OP just wants to modify the gun, go for it.
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Same here, trigger does start to get better after 2000/3000 rounds and continues to get better. Now at 9000+...........works for me. Would not think of replacing it.
 
Recoil firing revolver?

PHolster said:
I don't know, I thought it was good advice. My trigger felt much better after running a lot of ammo through it. After 8,000+ rounds, I am not sure I would like a lighter trigger. Okay, I take that back, I don't want a lighter trigger. My trigger got nice and smooth fairly quickly. In contrast, an old revolver I have, one that had the action smoothed when I bought it, is now too smooth and light, and I have had a second round fire off due to recoil causing the trigger to be depressed a second time. That revolver has many, many thousands of round through it, and will be worked on soon.

So my advice would be the same, if the OP has not shot the gun much, I would shoot it a while before lightening the trigger. Then if the trigger still seems too heavy, modify it. Of course if the OP just wants to modify the gun, go for it.
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I'd be more than a little interested at what you do/did to keep that revolver from double tapping automatically. Just out of curiosity what make/model revolver is it?
 
PHolster said:
I don't know, I thought it was good advice. My trigger felt much better after running a lot of ammo through it. After 8,000+ rounds, I am not sure I would like a lighter trigger. Okay, I take that back, I don't want a lighter trigger. My trigger got nice and smooth fairly quickly. In contrast, an old revolver I have, one that had the action smoothed when I bought it, is now too smooth and light, and I have had a second round fire off due to recoil causing the trigger to be depressed a second time. That revolver has many, many thousands of round through it, and will be worked on soon.

So my advice would be the same, if the OP has not shot the gun much, I would shoot it a while before lightening the trigger. Then if the trigger still seems too heavy, modify it. Of course if the OP just wants to modify the gun, go for it.
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8000 rounds at approx 200 per 1000 =almost 1500.00 bucks.

So you're saying you spent 1500.00 bucks to get a smooth trigger .

Ok then.
 
rustysixgun said:
I'd be more than a little interested at what you do/did to keep that revolver from double tapping automatically. Just out of curiosity what make/model revolver is it?
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A revolver can't double tap or hammer follow....ok then.
 
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rustysixgun said:
I'd be more than a little interested at what you do/did to keep that revolver from double tapping automatically. Just out of curiosity what make/model revolver is it?
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I haven't been shooting it much lately. With my normal reloads it isn't a problem, but with hotter loads, like +P I experienced it.

It is a Taurus Model 85 I bought new in 1986. It has many, many thousands of rounds through it. A few Summers I was running at least 500 rounds a week through it, sometimes more. I lived about a mile from the range and had nothing to do but reload and shoot. It have me absolutely no problems until last year, and it isn't a big problem, and only happened once or twice, and only with hot ammo, but I will be sending it in to be worked over at some point.
 
00 buck said:
A revolver can't double tap or hammer follow....ok then.
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Uhm...sure it can, it is double action, and the action was able to cycle again as I was resetting after the recoil of some hot ammo. The action got light enough for it to happen. It has a hell of a lot of ammo through it. It needs serviced, and will be soon.
 
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