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M&P 10mm magazines. Smith screwed it’s customers

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Long time lurker here. Long time Smith owner. What was the purpose of releasing a firearm at the first of the year, yet no way to purchase extra magazines? The M&P 10mm was marketed as a Duty/CCW firearm. I don’t know any serous person who CCW or for a job that will field a weapon with only 2 magazines. SW in my opinion has given the finger to their customers.

I have called SW every week for 2 months. No mags. No idea when mags will be available. I like smith guns bad the 10mm. Not this much. Thinking on selling / trading mine. Was hoping the M&P 10mm would be the best 10 to come along in a while. Seems I was hoping too much
 
You do have a point and I think we've discussed this before. This situation of no ammo, no components, no new guns and no magazines is pretty common and has been for awhile now. It just isn't unique to S&W. If you do find what you're looking for it's going to cost you at least 20-30% more than it did before the troubles started.

S&W has to rely on their supplier Mec-Gar for their magazines. My guess is Mec-Gar has been working at capacity for awhile now because they make mags for lots of different mfr's.

Not related but sort of. I read that Ford has 30K vehicles built and waiting on micro processors. I honestly don't think S&W saw this coming. I know most everyone that manufactures anything never anticipated the chaos.

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I can understand being frustrated not being able to find more mags, but frankly I know those who couldn't get mags for guns that have been out for some years. Or if they did find them they paid a hefty premium.
Covid closures, supply chain issues, staffing (or lack of) and any number of things have made products difficult to get. Which we all know far too well.
Point being yes it may not be the desired plan to wait to get more mags but I highly doubt that SW “screwed” their customers. This period we are in is not the same it was a couple years ago…..
Just my .02
 
Welcome from northeast ohio. Do you at least enjoy shooting it with the two mags it came with? My experience with 10mm is pretty limited, but I love my m&p 10mm
 
Last year it was Shield Plus customers that had problems getting extra magazines. It took a few months before they were widely available but they did eventually start showing up.

Those of us that buy extra magazines are a small subset of those that buy guns. Reading gun forums you get the impression that most gun owners carry and most people that carry have a spare magazine or two on them. Neither is true. The big majority of gun owners don't consider extra magazines a necessity. Given a choice between selling a lot of guns with two magazines or a few guns with a lot of magazines I don't blame S&W for choosing to sell more guns.

It is odd that magazines would be a gating item. They seem simple but I have seen a lot of unreliable aftermarket magazines. I would much rather S&W wait for quality magazines from a company like MecGar than see them start subcontracting with ProMag.

We must have been seeing different marketing for the M&P 10mm. I thought it was being marketed as a good pistol to carry in the woods where bears are common than a CCW/duty gun.
 
my issue is that with the looming Washington normal capacity magazine ban, if I don't get extra normal capacity magazines in the next 3 weeks, I'll never get them, unless the ban is struck down. I'll be stuck with neutered 10 round magazines, at some nebulous point in the future.

Welcome.
 
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my issue is that with the looming Washington normal capacity magazine ban,
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Wow, that's unfortunate and I understand the urgency in your case.

I used to say how things like that could never happen in Georgia but recently I am not so sure. Things have changed a lot in the 30 years I have lived here and in many ways not for the better.
 
Sorry to hear that, how much do you want for it ?
 
BattleMonkey said:
Long time lurker here. Long time Smith owner. What was the purpose of releasing a firearm at the first of the year, yet no way to purchase extra magazines? The M&P 10mm was marketed as a Duty/CCW firearm. I don’t know any serous person who CCW or for a job that will field a weapon with only 2 magazines.
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If you truly have been a long time lurker here, then you must have seen all the Shield and Shield Plus threads discussing 'no spare mags' and have known the history of it taking up to 6 Months for new model accessories to show up (especially spare mags), even when they wait until the 2nd Quarter to release a new model.

Most of the long time owners here understand that being the '1st kid on the block' to run out and get a new model, will mean waiting several Months for the accessories to show up. It took over 6 Months for original Shield mags to show up (back in 2012) and almost the same length of time for Shield Plus mags last Year.

The only way to avoid not having spare mags, is to go into the LGS and say 'I want to buy this pistol and some spare mags'. When they say 'there are no spare mags for this brand new model', wait to buy that pistol. ;)
 
Wouldn't be the first time someone bought a "spare" gun just to get the magazines. Then, when mags become available, sell the "spare" with the new mags (even if they are 10 round).

Quite a bit of money up front, but you won't have to wait 19 years for "Freedom Week".
 
No extra magazines for NEW guns is a deal breaker for me. I also wait at least a year before buying a new model to give a chance for customer (forums) reports and manufacturing defects / recalls. But I do understand the excitement of buying a new model when it first comes out.

BattleMonkey I fail to see a reason for selling your gun. It is now a used gun and 10mm is a niche cartridge. I like to have a bunch of extra magazines for my guns so I understand why you are flustered. As the gun has only been out since January I personally would keep it and wait for the magazines to become available rather than sell the gun at a loss (unless of course you come out ahead).
 
This is nothing new, been going on for many years. Happened to me when I bought a newly released HK P7M10 for my duty pistol back in the early 90's. Like the new M&P 10mm, it came with only 1 spare mag. Took months before they became available.
 
BattleMonkey said:
Long time lurker here. Long time Smith owner. What was the purpose of releasing a firearm at the first of the year, yet no way to purchase extra magazines? The M&P 10mm was marketed as a Duty/CCW firearm. I don’t know any serous person who CCW or for a job that will field a weapon with only 2 magazines. SW in my opinion has given the finger to their customers.

I have called SW every week for 2 months. No mags. No idea when mags will be available. I like smith guns bad the 10mm. Not this much. Thinking on selling / trading mine. Was hoping the M&P 10mm would be the best 10 to come along in a while. Seems I was hoping too much
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The words NY Reload come to mind if you realy feel that you do not have enough firepower.:rolleyes:
 
I agree with BattleMonkey's post. I knew there would be a delay in magazines when I bought the M&P 10mm, BUT did not expect it to be this long. Really like the gun except for 2 things, the lack of extra magazines and no options for the tall sights. I do not intend to put optics on it or any of my pistols, but with the cut of the rear sight there are NO options available from S&W or the aftermarket.

I have been able to find magazines for every one of my recent purchases except for the M&P 10mm, and yes some of them were new releases.
 
30 years ago when Glock 20 mags were unobtanium, I resorted to purchasing additional pistols just for the mags.

10mm mags have a mysteriously sorted history - be it from Bren, S&W or Glock. Ask me about my Megastar 10mm mag quest...

Only to make 10mm nuts more nutty...

Hopefully soon you'll be able to pick em up by the gross!
 
BattleMonkey said:
Long time lurker here. Long time Smith owner. What was the purpose of releasing a firearm at the first of the year, yet no way to purchase extra magazines? The M&P 10mm was marketed as a Duty/CCW firearm. I don’t know any serous person who CCW or for a job that will field a weapon with only 2 magazines. SW in my opinion has given the finger to their customers.

I have called SW every week for 2 months. No mags. No idea when mags will be available. I like smith guns bad the 10mm. Not this much. Thinking on selling / trading mine. Was hoping the M&P 10mm would be the best 10 to come along in a while. Seems I was hoping too much
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You have one post. You joined this forum just to complain and then run away . Of course stirring the pot fot you lots of responses. I wonder if you are a bot?
 
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