I bought the 4" when it was released last year (name on the list in either late October 22 or November 22. Factory trigger was fine to me, but then replaced it with a Timney and it's outstanding! Average pull weight on the 5.6 pc is 4#14.6ozs (5 pulls). Average pull weight on the Timney is 2# 10.4ozs. I've ordered the 2.0 45acp 5.31" threaded barrel and will add 1 of the 2 Timney's I've ordered for the 45. I can't say much about the apex trigger, but have used the apex barrels and like those.