New .22 Magnum (rimfire) M & P

murphydog · Jul 11, 2023

I received a dealer e-mail advertising it as "NEW" at $599. 4.35" barrel and 30 round magazine, long straight grip frame like the 5.7. No mention of it on the factory website.

Did the dealer...jump the gun?

cbunix23 · Jul 11, 2023

Optic ready, comes with two 30-round magazines, fiber optic front sight

tlawler · Jul 11, 2023

Looks a lot like a PMR-30.

LVSteve · Jul 11, 2023

Nice to see it uses their 5.7 operating system. However, how come it doesn’t come with suppressor threads. It does meet the needs of those who wanted this caliber over 5.7.

cbunix23 · Jul 11, 2023

It's on the S&W site now

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/mp-22-mag

and there's a 36-second YouTube video

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBkaq_IlOHA[/ame]

malph · Jul 11, 2023

It's Smith's answer to the Walther WMP.

If it is reliable, and that is always the question with .22mag pistols, it should be a lot of fun to shoot.

AlwaysArmed · Jul 11, 2023

New Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Magnum Gun Review! - YouTube

VictorLouis · Jul 11, 2023

Nice! Sootch A/B's it a few times against the 5.7. This WMR has a shorter grip, front to back, which means it ought to feel much better.

IAM Rand · Jul 11, 2023

Reminds me of something

murphydog · Jul 11, 2023

Looks like the factory planned a business hour announcement for the new M & P, and the gun shop decided midnight of that day worked to start selling it.

Jim Watson · Jul 11, 2023

AlwaysArmed said:
New Smith & Wesson M&P 22 Magnum Gun Review! - YouTube

Geez, yak yak yak.

Where's the target, where's the chronograph?

I think everybody has the TEMPO gas handling backwards, including Smith and Wesson. The gas port is in front of the "piston rings", it is driving the barrel back inside the sleeve. It is not gas retarded, it is gas boosted.

smoothshooter · Jul 11, 2023

I don’t think .22 Magnum is much of an improvement over .22 LR in a handgun. Also consider that .22 Mag cost per round is 3 to 4 times that of .22LR.
Personally, I really dislike the ear-splitting crack .22 Mag makes when fired from pistol-length barrels. Worse than .45 ACP, 9 mm, and .38 Special to my ears, even with hearing protection.

RUT · Jul 11, 2023

Poo pooers be damned, I want one!

P.S. Well, I did until I saw some damming reviews. Think I'll just sit back and see how things unfold. :-(

PALADIN85020 · Jul 11, 2023

I already have an S&W .22 WMR handgun. I'm happy.

John

huthike · Jul 11, 2023

Plus one on the need for a threaded barrel. I have several .22 mags but I want this one too.

BAM-BAM · Jul 11, 2023

Dang........Was hoping for a .22mag..... 15/22 with 10 and 25rd mags!

coltle6920 · Jul 11, 2023

I've had my PMR30 for about 11yrs. Ammo isn't as big an issue once the firearm has broken in. Care has to be taken loading the mags to avoid having FTF's while shooting. I'm sure the same will be said about this M&P model.

The only difference I see between the PMR30 and the M&P is the barrel system on the M&P and I don't see any advantage there. The PMR30 is also over $100 cheaper.

Not knocking the M&P... Just my observations and opinion.

357 shooter · Jul 11, 2023

smoothshooter said:
I don’t think .22 Magnum is much of an improvement over .22 LR in a handgun. Also consider that .22 Mag cost per round is 3 to 4 times that of .22LR.
Personally, I really dislike the ear-splitting crack .22 Mag makes when fired from pistol-length barrels. Worse than .45 ACP, 9 mm, and .38 Special to my ears, even with hearing protection.

Back in the late 1980s guy at the range let me fire his AMT Automag II and aside from the trigger being one of the heaviest I've ever encountered the muzzle blast bordered on the absurd.

Then the current cost of 22 mag - looking at Midway about $16 bucks is the low end of 22 mag ammo pricing its almost $10 to fully load the 30 round mag. No thanks. Even if 22 mag ammo was somewhat affordable I'll still stick to rifles for the 22 magnum.

Jim Watson · Jul 11, 2023

At Ballistics by the inch
CCI Maxi Mag 40 gr gave 1353 fps in 4", 1474 in 5"
CCI Mini Mag 40 gr gave 1014 fps in 4", 1097 in 5"

I don't call that "no better."

1sailor · Jul 11, 2023

I have heard it said many times that the Magnum loses so much with a pistol length barrel that it drops down to 22 LR ballistics. However, I have seen many demo's where the rounds were chrono'd and every time the Magnum comes out quite a bit ahead.

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