Bodyguard 2.0 Optic

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I know most won't have too much interest of putting an optic on a micro. I get why. My personal use case is that I'm farsighted and my close up vision makes looking at iron sights extremely difficult and blurry without reading glasses, which as a carry I don't think many dangers opposite me will allow me time to put on my reading glasses. Also, this is a backup carry for me that is only used for deeper concealed carry when my attire demands it, and not my main daily carry.

So onto my Bodyguard. I knew that I was going to try and put an optic on, so I already had a Vedder pocket holster and IWB with optic cut-outs. I had picked up an Sig Romeo Zero for well under $80 on sale weeks ago which is a Shield RMSc footprint.

There's another post on here that talked about the M&P optic adaptor from Trijicon, but with an RMRcc footprint it made most optic options for me too large, too few, and too expensive. I reached out just after Christmas to Galloway Precision since I knew they made some adaptors in RMSc and they told me to hold on a few weeks. Well they released one for the Bodyguard 2.0 at SHOT Show last week. I purchased immediately and it arrived this week for me to install. I'm attaching the pictures of it.

The fit is very good. It didn't require the force the factory sights needed to remove the sights to install the Galloway Precision adaptor, but it did need taps from a nylon hammer to persuade it in. Beyond that fit it has a separate set screw in the middle of the little channel running through the center of the adaptor. I put some Rocksett on it and tightened to 9 in-lbs. Then installed the Romeo Zero with Galloway's mounting screws and the Sig metal shield for protection, some Vibra-tite threadlocker at 9 in-lbs as well. I used different thread locks because the vibra-tite is easier to remove since the battery in the Romeo Zero requires removal, while the set screw, slide, and plate could be boiled if removal is needed.

Once installed I'd say that there is about 3/16" of the mount that overhangs the slide on the sides. The mount is flush on the rear and stops well before the ejection port.

My feelings about it. Overall I like it. I was worried that it would catch on my pocket drawing it. After a few dozen practice attempts, I didn't have a single hangup in the pants I would normally be wearing. It is far less intrusive than I even thought it could be and I seem to be having zero issues. It's far more difficult to put it back in my pocket, but the draw isn't an issue.

The Galloway mount has a slot running front to back under the sight that is described as allowing for seeing the front sight as backup. That is true, you can see the front sight through it under the optic. I have a difficult time imagining a situation where this would be useable since the front sight takes up about 98% of the sight picture through the channel not leaving any room to see what you're aiming at. So I don't really count this as a feature.

I haven't shot it yet with the optic. Just a two days of dry fire. I was having the often discussed sights that seemed off (even with my readers on!) about 4" left. Not to mention the size of the rear sight opening, but I get why they did that somewhat. I'm hoping I can correct that with the dot and be much more accurate.

Hope that helps someone!
 

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I can understand the optic, given your eyesight, but to pocket carry this way, there's a good chance of snag while drawing. This could end badly. I pocket carry and did the sight upgrade on mine, but I leave the optics for my competition guns.
 
I know most won't have too much interest of putting an optic on a micro.

Hope that helps someone!

That optic would not be a choice for me. I had a Romeo Zero on my P365 Micro to help targeting with my old eyes. I removed it because it interfered with my draw, hanging up on my clothing, and I could not find the red dot quick enough for my comfort.

I installed a Sig Green Lima Laser and it works great.

I am hoping that one of the laser optics manufacturers (e.g. LaserMax, Crimson Trace, ArmaLaser, Viridian) will produce a similar grip activated laser for the BodyGuard 2.0.

UPDATE: Armalaser emailed me back on March 4 that they don't have a specific date, but hope to have it available in 6-8 weeks.
April 15 will be 6 weeks, April 29 will be 8 weeks.
 
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Some of us with Presbyopia (older eyes) might see red or orange as blurry and green as clear.

Yes, there are several types of color blindness. It's interesting that my eye doctor, during examinations for corrective glasses, has never mentioned "color blindness"??

I don't have any color blindness that I am aware, but that condition would be a definite discussion with my eye doctor, for precisely how it may effect my choices on lasers or red dots for my defense handgun.
 
I was't speaking of color blindness such as red-green or blue-yellow.

There are structures within the eye (rods and cones) which serve a number of functions, including color vision, and it has been hypothesized that aging occurs in these structures as well. We can always work around those issues with either color preferences and/or glasses. I can't see a red dot for ***** but green? Fantastic.

Can you imagine being red-green color blind and driving a car? There must be shades of color they must differentiate in order to know when to stop and go.
 
Although the human eye has more red cones than green cones, our eyes and brain are more sensitive to green light. That is why I chose green lasers over the red lasers.

The next time I consider a red dot type optic, I will look at the green dot options. The green dot optics are typically more expensive, and the battery life is shorter.

One other consideration for an issue with color blindness is that it can cause a loss of depth perception. That condition could affect how we perceive a potential threat and how to react to the target.
 
Although the human eye has more red cones than green cones, our eyes and brain are more sensitive to green light. That is why I chose green lasers over the red lasers.

The next time I consider a red dot type optic, I will look at the green dot options. The green dot optics are typically more expensive, and the battery life is shorter.

One other consideration for an issue with color blindness is that it can cause a loss of depth perception. That condition could affect how we perceive a potential threat and how to react to the target.

I have both red and green on different firearms. I have found the area you are in to be a big factor. When I'm in the country with lots of foliage, green can blend and be more difficult and red works better. Often in urban areas I find green really stands out. Overall I default to red though due to the cost and battery life issues.
 
That optic would not be a choice for me. I had a Romeo Zero on my P365 Micro to help targeting with my old eyes. I removed it because it interfered with my draw, hanging up on my clothing, and I could not find the red dot quick enough for my comfort.

I installed a Sig Green Lima Laser and it works great.

I am hoping that one of the laser optics manufacturers (e.g. LaserMax, Crimson Trace, ArmaLaser, Viridian) will produce a similar grip activated laser for the BodyGuard 2.0.

The Romeo is on there mostly because PrimaryArms had a one day sale and I picked it up for under $80. On my main carry I use the Holosun 507K ACSS which helped me a lot initially in finding the dot. Now, after enough practice, I find I don't need those aids as much and finding the dot comes easier now that I have my draw/hold practiced.
 
I never want to rain on your parade, nor anyone else's for that matter, but that is a hard pass for me. It's just too much.

I also have vision issues and wear progressive lenses, and it seems to work out extremely well.

And I totally understand that point of view. I don't disagree with it. It is a lot. Heck, the Bodyguard 2.0 isn't even my choice for 95% of my carrying. There are times though where I need something that size, and I've found that I've had a lot of trouble with the iron sights on it. That said, I practice with it and it works for me.
 
Just as an update.

I finally got to the range and zeroed it in. Was able to shoot mostly touching 2" groups at 7 yards, 5" groups at 15, and about 8" groups at 25 yards with slow (1 second) continuous fire all on target.

A vast improvement over the 4-5" left and low large grouping before the optic. Shrunk my groups by probably over half... and I can see.
 
Just as an update.

I finally got to the range and zeroed it in. Was able to shoot mostly touching 2" groups at 7 yards, 5" groups at 15, and about 8" groups at 25 yards with slow (1 second) continuous fire all on target.
A vast improvement over the 4-5" left and low large grouping before the optic. Shrunk my groups by probably over half... and I can see.

It's amazing how tight of groups this thing will shoot with the better sights. I'm a bullseye shooter and was able to keep most of them into sub one inch at seven yards slow fire. Rapid fire 3-4 inches.
 
Thanks for posting and sharing photos. I’ve been researching options for getting a dot on mine and it’s nice to learn from your experience how the Romeo Zero sits on it. It’s funny, the RZ never seems like a big optic until mounted on a bodyguard 2.0.
 
Yes... nice update with photos.

Again, that option would be a no-go for me for obvious concerns.

Armalaser is supposedly going to release a grip activated laser like the BG1. THAT will be a big joy for my old eyes.

That would make 4 lasers on 4 different firearms.

The green lasers, so far, are quicker and more accurate for me than any other sighting option for close shots less than 25 yards. They don't work in daylight, but I have irons.
 
That optic would not be a choice for me. I had a Romeo Zero on my P365 Micro to help targeting with my old eyes. I removed it because it interfered with my draw, hanging up on my clothing, and I could not find the red dot quick enough for my comfort.

I installed a Sig Green Lima Laser and it works great.

I am hoping that one of the laser optics manufacturers (e.g. LaserMax, Crimson Trace, ArmaLaser, Viridian) will produce a similar grip activated laser for the BodyGuard 2.0.
Hello! Did you install the Sig Lima Laser on a Bodyguard 2.0?
 
That optic would not be a choice for me. I had a Romeo Zero on my P365 Micro to help targeting with my old eyes. I removed it because it interfered with my draw, hanging up on my clothing, and I could not find the red dot quick enough for my comfort.

I installed a Sig Green Lima Laser and it works great.

I am hoping that one of the laser optics manufacturers (e.g. LaserMax, Crimson Trace, ArmaLaser, Viridian) will produce a similar grip activated laser for the BodyGuard 2.0.

UPDATE: Armalaser emailed me back on March 4 that they don't have a specific date, but hope to have it available in 6-8 weeks.
April 15 will be 6 weeks, April 29 will be 8 weeks.
The Sig Green Lima Laser is an excellent choice for the P365. I got rid of the pistol, just because the grip angle didn't work for me, but the matching laser was the best part of the entire setup. That and the variety of Sig holsters they make to fit that setup. Everything from IWB, OWB, Leather & Kydex- You have holster options with Sig.
 
Hello! Did you install the Sig Lima Laser on a Bodyguard 2.0?
Sig lasers are made to fit specific Sig pistols, they don't fit other brands, unless it's advertised as a universal rail fit laser, and of course there's no rail on the BG 2.0
 

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