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03-26-2012, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dragon88
Yes unfortunately dated practices in the military build a lot of bad habits about firearms maintenance, and oil in the magazines is just one of them. The gas ring alignment myth is another.
One of my Drill Sergeants in basic told me he put CLP on his ammunition to make sure the rounds fed well. Just because it came out of a DIs mouth doesn't make it good advice.
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I agree with you about believing everything out of a DI's mouth lol but in the article I posted I was having the carriage getting cocked on me like in the top left picture and that did stop that problem and it was the same thing in boot camp. But at the same time I do see your point about over lubing especially the dirt and getting excessive oil on the rounds is a big no-no.
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10-28-2013, 09:31 AM
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I agree with you about believing everything out of a DI's mouth lol but in the article I posted I was having the carriage getting cocked on me like in the top left picture and that did stop that problem and it was the same thing in boot camp. But at the same time I do see your point about over lubing especially the dirt and getting excessive oil on the rounds is a big no-no.
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Wonder if the practice of oiling the magazines to prevent jams was taught before the introduction of the 'anti-tilt' follower??
Before the ATF was introduced some magazines did have a tendency to allow the rounds to tilt in the magazine causing mis-feeds and a little oil would help alleviate the tilting problem.
These days I just disassemble my mags and wipe the internals down with an oily cloth cuz I ditched the ones that weren't ant-tilt.
The SS magazines I own are Teflon coated on the inside.
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12-04-2013, 09:55 PM
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Update:
Just picked it up last night from being sent back to Smith & Wesson. Haven't had a chance to shoot it yet but it appears someone has run it through its paces, outside of barrel and gas tube under handguard looks like it got pretty warm and BCG is coated in black residue.... I was actually glad to see this as it seemed to indicate to me at least someone got her to run. Broke it down and cleaned it after I got home to see if I could see evidence of something different as S&W sent no information as to what was done, if anything. The lube on the recoil spring smelled different and the bolt was much smoother in the carrier and of course the black residue were all I could find.
Today I received an e-mail from the store that sent it in for me and was told, "We did in fact send in your gun for repair because of the feed ramp and chamber not aligning. When Smith and Wesson send repaired firearms back to us, they just send and invoice with the Serial Number listed and say that the gun has been repaired to Smith and Wesson’s specifications and if there are any questions to call and inquire."
I plan to shoot it this weekend, hope it works.
Thanks for the informative thread, been a pleasure.
Doc
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeStack Lightning
Wonder if the practice of oiling the magazines to prevent jams was taught before the introduction of the 'anti-tilt' follower??
Before the ATF was introduced some magazines did have a tendency to allow the rounds to tilt in the magazine causing mis-feeds and a little oil would help alleviate the tilting problem.
These days I just disassemble my mags and wipe the internals down with an oily cloth cuz I ditched the ones that weren't ant-tilt.
The SS magazines I own are Teflon coated on the inside.
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Oil on the ammo or the chamber is a bad idea.
When the gun is fired, the brass appears to the expanding hot gas to be as soft as rubber. The case expands to obturate and in this process, firmly grips the chamber wall. Oiling the ammo or the chamber means this grip is reduced; the result is an increase in "bolt thrust," which is the case's tendency to push backwards against the bolt face. Increasing bolt thrust puts more stress on the bolt face and locking lugs. Not a good idea.
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