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05-07-2012, 10:32 PM
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New Sport owner.
This may be a dumb question but is the Sport a "milspec" rifle?
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05-07-2012, 10:56 PM
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This may be a dumb question but is the Sport a "milspec" rifle?
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Nope.
No Forward Assit
No Dust Cover
Melonite Treated Barrel v.s. Hard Chrome
No M4 profile cut in the barrel for a grenade launcher
4140 Steel v.s. 4150 CMV steel barrel
Semi-Auto BCG v.s. Full Auto BCG
1:8 5R Progressive Gain Rifle Twist v.s. 1:7
Carbine Buffer v.s. "H" buffer
Semi-Auto Trigger v.s. three round burst/full auto trigger.
I know there's more, but I'm not one to know every mil-spec spec.
Keep in mind that mil-spec isn't the end-all-be-all of AR construction in the civilian market. Us civvies get to play outside the mil-spec TDP barrier and get better stuff. Everything on the Sport is good to go.
On the 15-Sport, it's the barrel that is outstanding. The omission of a dust cover & forward assist make it nice & light. The stock handguards are nice & slim compared to the mil-spec one.
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05-07-2012, 11:02 PM
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This may be a dumb question but is the Sport a "milspec" rifle?
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I'm not sure I put your question into the right context.
If you're talking about the buffer tube, yes. The 15-Sport uses a mil-spec buffer tube. You'll need a mil-spec butt stock.
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05-08-2012, 06:45 AM
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Yes the Sport is mil-spec and beyond. Other than no foward assist or dust cover it will go head to head with any other flavor AR out there. You won't be sorry buying it.
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05-08-2012, 07:24 AM
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Thanks for the replies, I was wondering about parts like the butt stock.
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Are you confused yet? As JaPes pointed out, the Sport is not "mil-spec" in regards that it does not meet every spec that the gov has laid out for their rifles. However for parts, The Sport has mil-spec dimensions, so anything that can go on any other AR carbine can go on the Sport.
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05-08-2012, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by JaPes
I'm not sure I put your question into the right context.
If you're talking about the buffer tube, yes. The 15-Sport uses a mil-spec buffer tube. You'll need a mil-spec butt stock.
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well....not necessarily The normal Sport is a mil-spec buffer tube...however the New York version is some strange commercial variety, i.e. it's commercial but longer than standard commercial. If you have one of these (like I did), just scrap the whole tube if you want to replace the stock. But remember to "pin" the stock in position to make it legal.
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If the rifle ain't going to war it ain't really mil-spec, no matter that make. Mil-spec is more about meeting spec set forth by the goverment and not allways better than what we all buy for hunting or recreation. I do think most of sport owners will say , you would be hard pressed to find a mil-spec rifle that will shot with a sport on the target line.
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I would agree. I would happily put my sport up against the Colts I Took to the range in the army.
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I 100% agree this is far more accurate than anything that I was issued. I have a nephew who is in the army and spends a lot of time in the combat zones who bought one and he claims it is more accurate than anything he has ever been issued. In fact it was after shooting his that I started considering the Sport, no regrets and dang sure no tears!!!
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The anodizing is not "milspec". Milspec is type III hard anodizing. As far as I know S&W has not divulged the exact anodizing they use.
Milspec has really just become a term to 1. market their weapon 2. make you THINK it's better 3. make you THINK yours is inferior. BTW, if it's an AR-15 or it's not issued to the military or LE it's most likely not completely milspec. There are exceptions, such as states that allow full auto. Here in NC full auto is not allowed by state law, so I'll never legally own a milspec M4.
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OP... sorry dude... I kind of derailed your thread by interpreting your question wrong... and now... well...
The 15-Sport is compatible with the AR furniture & accessories you see on the market. The AR platform is based upon standardized specifications. It's what makes it such a money-pit.
Again, the buffer tube on a standard 15-Sport with collapsible stock is a mil-spec buffer tube.
Again... sorry... I triggered something in this tread ... lol
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OP... sorry dude... I kind of derailed your thread by interpreting your question wrong... and now... well...
The 15-Sport is compatible with the AR furniture & accessories you see on the market. The AR platform is based upon standardized specifications. It's what makes it such a money-pit.
Again, the buffer tube on a standard 15-Sport with collapsible stock is a mil-spec buffer tube.
Again... sorry... I triggered something in this tread ... lol
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Thanks for the input.
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The 15-Sport is compatible with the AR furniture & accessories you see on the market. The AR platform is based upon standardized specifications. It's what makes it such a money-pit.
Again, the buffer tube on a standard 15-Sport with collapsible stock is a mil-spec buffer tube.
JaPes - I enjoyed your exact detailing. As for the original question, I think you nailed his answer 100% with the above.
Thanks, Chuck
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