Quick release Scope mounts for Carry handle

805moparkid · #1 10-14-2012, 04:42 PM

ok guys i got A2 upper and currently have the see thru rail that mounts into the carry handle with the scope rings mounted on that. well im not sure that i could hope that it would go back to zero by removing the whole rail from the handle and reinstalling.

so my question is this. is there a quick release mount that i can mount the rings to that will mounts to the Picatinny on the carry handle without raising it way up in the air?? have magpul ACS stock and would like to keep from putting a riser on it...

any idea's?? the GG&G mounts are 1" lift...

http://http://www.midwayusa.com/prod...-flattop-matte

on a side note i was wondering if i could have the carry handle and rail milled to make a machined mated area, that would hold zero...

did find this but 250 bucks ouch!
http://www.gunaccessories.com/Milita...AR15/index.asp

storeyteller · #2 10-16-2012, 08:25 AM

Why not get QD rings instead?

805moparkid · #3 10-16-2012, 09:02 PM

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Why not get QD rings instead?

im not sure two rings not being connected is a good idea... at least it dosn't seem like a good idea if taking them on and off...

your taking like this right?

Leupold 30mm QRW Quick-Release Weaver-Style Rings Matte Low

storeyteller · #4 10-16-2012, 09:18 PM

That's what I'm talking about. I have some of the UTG LE QD rings and have been pretty impressed with 'em. They don't get me back to dead zero, but pretty darn close. I bet the ones you linked are even better.

805moparkid · #5 10-16-2012, 11:19 PM

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That's what I'm talking about. I have some of the UTG LE QD rings and have been pretty impressed with 'em. They don't get me back to dead zero, but pretty darn close. I bet the ones you linked are even better.

well its worth a try! thanks... do i have to align them?

storeyteller · #6 10-17-2012, 08:26 AM

If you already have a lapping/alignment kit then by all means use it, I wouldn't go buy one or pay someone to do it though. I have 2 sets of the UTG's and I just put 'em on and sighted in, no problem. That set up will shoot <MOA at 300yds. The Leupold's are IMO of far better quality and I highly doubt there will be a problem.

oneyeopn · #7 10-17-2012, 02:48 PM

I found a carrying handle that folds off to the side like I used to have on the M60 for the AR's. Looks like the thing to have if a person wants to keep a carrying handle. someone in the past was looking for a carrying handle like this but I cannot remember who. anyway it is in the catalog for cdnninvestments.com one of the last pages.

805moparkid · #8 10-17-2012, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by storeyteller

If you already have a lapping/alignment kit then by all means use it, I wouldn't go buy one or pay someone to do it though. I have 2 sets of the UTG's and I just put 'em on and sighted in, no problem. That set up will shoot <MOA at 300yds. The Leupold's are IMO of far better quality and I highly doubt there will be a problem.

so when is it necessary to use the alignment "dies"

805moparkid · #9 10-17-2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oneyeopn

I found a carrying handle that folds off to the side like I used to have on the M60 for the AR's. Looks like the thing to have if a person wants to keep a carrying handle. someone in the past was looking for a carrying handle like this but I cannot remember who. anyway it is in the catalog for cdnninvestments.com one of the last pages.

mines a not a flat top if thats what your thinking??

oneyeopn · #10 10-17-2012, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 805moparkid

mines a not a flat top if thats what your thinking??

OK I was thinking yours was, I apologize. Some people like to keep the carrying handle or a carrying handle on theirs. My "CyberSport" already weighs enough but I am thinking about putting the folding handle on my homebuilt.

Gunslinger808 · #11 10-17-2012, 09:08 PM

Deja Vu all over again.
I thought I was having a flashback!

Good Question for Ar Guys...

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on a side note i was wondering if i could have the carry handle and rail milled to make a machined mated area, that would hold zero...

For that much trouble and cost, it'd be easier and cheaper to get a flat top upper and change it out with your A2.

805moparkid · #12 10-17-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunslinger808

Deja Vu all over again.
I thought I was having a flashback!

Good Question for Ar Guys...

For that much trouble and cost, it'd be easier and cheaper to get a flat top upper and change it out with your A2.

haha not a total flashback... and a 75 dollar set of rings is cheaper...

storeyteller · #13 10-17-2012, 10:39 PM

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so when is it necessary to use the alignment "dies"

I was thinking you were talking about lapping the rings. My bad. I'm under the impression that the dies or rods are for dovetail/standard bases not weaver/picitany bases.

Gunslinger808 · #14 10-17-2012, 10:42 PM

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so when is it necessary to use the alignment "dies"

Twist on scope rings such as Leupolds.

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and a 75 dollar set of rings

A stripped flat top is $65:
http://surplusammo.com/surplus-ammo-...pper-receiver/

805moparkid · #15 10-17-2012, 11:51 PM

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Twist on scope rings such as Leupolds.

A stripped flat top is $65:
SA&A Stripped AR-15 Flat Top Upper Receiver, Forged, Excellent Quality In Stock

i'll make it easy lol... i dont want a flat top... if i wanted one i would buy one... my next build is gonna be a 16" flat though... just not this one...

805moparkid · #16 10-17-2012, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by storeyteller

I was thinking you were talking about lapping the rings. My bad. I'm under the impression that the dies or rods are for dovetail/standard bases not weaver/picitany bases.

well they are arn't they? i just didn't know if they are needed for a rail setup...

storeyteller · #17 10-18-2012, 08:33 AM

I have never used 'em, I use an old school wood dowel when I use dovetail rings, which is rarely.
They won't serve any purpose for the rail mount cause theres nothing to align. The weaver/picatinny rings are self-aligning.

oneyeopn · #18 10-18-2012, 10:44 AM

I have a couple of Leupold twist on's on Mauser 98 actions, I use a boresight to get the rings coarse aligned and then fine adjust at the range. May not be the right way but it seems to work, OP sorry about the small redirect!