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Old 01-08-2013, 08:28 PM
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I thought by now I would be able to find some once fired brass at a reasonable price, but it is starting to make me think that no one is shooting, or everyone is policing their own brass. Hmmm
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no one is giving up their brass it could become hard to get in the near future.
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no one is giving up their brass it could become hard to get in the near future.
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Ammo scarce going on right now. Not many Americans are gonna risk their brass shooting at targets.
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I was upset I lost 13 the another day because they went across the firing line at the range.


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I thought by now I would be able to find some once fired brass at a reasonable price, but it is starting to make me think that no one is shooting, or everyone is policing their own brass. Hmmm
Makes you wonder.... I'm still buying what I can find if it doesn't have a rediculous price on it. Little here,little there. It all adds up. Even found some cheap steel Wolf .223 the other day. Normally I'd stay away from it.
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I saw where some politicians are wanting to regulate ammunition, but I noticed what they didnt think about, thats us who are to cheap or broke to buy ammunition. I think I just found some once fired black hills but I dont know anything about black hills ammo.
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I thought by now I would be able to find some once fired brass at a reasonable price, but it is starting to make me think that no one is shooting, or everyone is policing their own brass. Hmmm
No, I shot last Friday, exactly 100 rounds of 223/5.56 and another 50 of 22LR.

Have to admit, I did see this coming and was in a decent position with a good cache of ammo, so I'm just buying to replenish from range visits. Ten boxes of American Eagle arrived today from Cabela's. I see this ammo madness as short term, and ammo will be back in supply by Spring, so I'll keep on shooting.
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One of the new ranges that just open has a strict policy no policing brass he expects you to leave it behind. He then collects it and sells it. I got a feeling he be gone in a few months easy. He also will not allow Steel or aluminium cased ammo on the range. Unless you buy it from him he wants to expect every single round you plan to fire.

I envy you guys I had no time to build up my cache of 223/5.56 since I just got my rifle in November.
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i desert Shoot only... and pick up my Brass.

I also Search around for spent Brass just in case I see any "Man" Left behind...

Find a few 9mm, but not many .223, but when i do... we all go Home together as a Family




Was great Loading my own .223 yesterday to take with me shooting today.... No Shortage at My House.... my 4K Bullets should last me a Month or two
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There is some congress woman here in CA that launched something called AB48 which starts to regulate the purchase of ammo here in the DPRC. She was on the radio when I was driving home talking about her bill. Then the semi-liberal but sometimes interesting Gil Gross opened up for calls. The next 5 people shredded the congresslady/woman in a very professional manner without sounding crazy (see the Piers/Jones interview for what we don't want). I was proud of the callers who calmly pointed out that the congressperson had no clue what she was talking about and in the end Gil Gross was agreeing that AB48 would have no effect in stopping the gun violence.

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There was a video on YouTube on the differences between 223/556 and it was stated that the 5.56 has thicker brass so it will change pressures if loaded to .223 specs. Can anyone verify this? And if so, how can you tell if you're picking up 5.56 or .223 brass?
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From what my reloading friends and others have told me the 5.56 is slightly thicker brass to handle the higher pressure loads. How would you tell? I suspect the stamp near the primer would be 5.56 rather than .223 (expert please way in here)
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From what my reloading friends and others have told me the 5.56 is slightly thicker brass to handle the higher pressure loads. How would you tell? I suspect the stamp near the primer would be 5.56 rather than .223 (expert please way in here)
Correct all brass is marked. Even some older military brass is marked but not all with a caliber. I would not reload brass that is missing a caliber mark just for safety reasons.

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Correct all brass is marked. Even old military brass should be marked with a caliber. I would not reload brass that is missing a caliber mark just for safety reasons.
Thank you. Sorry for the newb question
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Like someone else told me there is no such thing as a newb question. How will you know if you don't ask.
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Well I agree on the, "it's better to ask questions" motto, but I do believe a dumb question is the one you were too lazy to find out so you just ask someone else lol.
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"Correct all brass is marked. Even old military brass should be marked with a caliber. I would not reload brass that is missing a caliber mark just for safety reasons."

That is not correct- I have old military brass in 5.56 and 30-06 that is not marked with caliber just 2 initials and 2 digits which I believe are the plant where made and year,i.e., L C 7 2 for Lake City 1972. Not trying to start an argument-just hope info is useful to someone.
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Not an expert by any means but I would like to point out that mil-spec 5.56 brass is not normally marked with a caliber (5.56). Most, if not all the once-fired mil brass that I have is marked with the manufacturer and the year. Example of that would be a headstamp with L C 9 8. That means it was made at the Lake City plant in 1998. I have some brass with a headstamp on it that is L C 7 3. So they have been using this system for some time. And Lake City is not the only company using this type of marking system. Another example would be WCC 04, Western Cartridge Company 2004.
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"Correct all brass is marked. Even old military brass should be marked with a caliber. I would not reload brass that is missing a caliber mark just for safety reasons."

That is not correct- I have old military brass in 5.56 and 30-06 that is not marked with caliber just 2 initials and 2 digits which I believe are the plant where made and year,i.e., L C 7 2 for Lake City 1972. Not trying to start an argument-just hope info is useful to someone.
I did not know that I have some old military 38 brass and its all marked with 2 letters 2 numbers and then 38 special. Thats what I was going by with the military brass. I guess I learned something new also.

I still dont think I shoot any unmarked brass unless it was my own and I knew exactly what it was.

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One of the new ranges that just open has a strict policy no policing brass he expects you to leave it behind. He then collects it and sells it. I got a feeling he be gone in a few months easy. He also will not allow Steel or aluminium cased ammo on the range. Unless you buy it from him he wants to expect every single round you plan to fire.

I envy you guys I had no time to build up my cache of 223/5.56 since I just got my rifle in November.
I'd treat that gun range just like a treat all the stores around here that have those no firearms signs. That place would never see a penny of my money and i'll gladly go down the street and pay a few bucks more for the same product. I dont even buy gas from freaking places like that.
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I'd treat that gun range just like a treat all the stores around here that have those no firearms signs. That place would never see a penny of my money and i'll gladly go down the street and pay a few bucks more for the same product. I dont even buy gas from freaking places like that.
He is close less then 5min drive from my house. The next closest place is easily a 30min drive and cost a little more. I will happy drive 30mins and pay a small premium.
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Grover, make friends with an armorer or a rangemaster on a local army base. They send out the brass for recycling, and in many cases, it means nothing to them to grab you a bag of brass after a training day on the range.
This is how I get my stripper clips. They will either go in the trash, or I will buy them for about five to ten cents apiece.
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Thanks for the info..

I reload all my brass to 5.56 levels. The Chamber is built to take the pressures not really the brass. I may be wrong and I cannot recommend anyone else do this but after a couple of thousand rounds I have yet to have a problem, no primer signs, no split cases.

The only case neck I have had split, there were 3 of them, was when I did a heavy crimp on some 75gr Amax bullets. I then read and found out that bullets with a cannalure in my dies get a small roll crimp.
I dont have set back problems and I no longer do a heavy crimp. This has been my experiences with the brass.
I wish I was within 150 miles of an Army base, or a rifle range but I am not so I have to continue to find once fired brass, or buy bullets that arent satisfactorily accurate for me.
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