For those of you who dont have mags....Natchez is having a sale on mags....Steel 20's for $12.99 and Steel 30's for $10.99...I know they aren't Magpul mags but they are good functional mags and at that price hard to pass up. I myself have been using 6 thermold 20rnd magazines for over a year, always loaded and have been shot out of many, many times...they have more than paid for their $3 price...