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in the process of adding FDE furniture, rail covers and p mags (pics coming soon).....anyone else making the conversion? I just got tired of plain all black 
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You can detail strip the lower receiver and upper receiver and have them Cerakoted.
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Flat Dark Earth AR builds?
That's what I have been doing. No mags yet. But just added the Magpul MOE Grip and CRT Stock. With Troy rail covers. 
Whoops that's a pic of before the grip.
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Nice. What rail do you have?
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I saw this being done over at (Deleted link to other Forum- phil ) from a guy in Florida, and I was really impressed with the result. Eventually I'm going to just build my next gun to spec starting with the lower......
Very nice rifles guys.....very well done!!!
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Nice stuff guys, the more I look at mine.... I need to change my hand grip to black....
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Nice. What rail do you have?
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Shoot when I get mine I'm tossed up between od green or fde. It's killing me. Parents and I filed at the same time and they got their return back....
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Ok here is an updated picture with MOE grip. 
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Is that vertical the Mission First react? I ordered it along with their full furniture kit in scorched dark earth which is basically their version of the magpul FDE.
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Is that vertical the Mission First react? I ordered it along with their full furniture kit in scorched dark earth which is basically their version of the magpul FDE.
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Yes Mission First. Not sure if it is the react but it is the one that folds   
Also has a storage compartment.
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Alright Gunny, we are getting awful close lol...
I notice you have your forward sling mount in the forward slot vs the rear-most slot which seems to be all the rage now. Any reason for going all they way forward? I tried it there but it seemed to get in the way of my grip...
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Been posting it in the pics thread, but here is my FDE revision of the M&P 15 OR...getting close to complete. Looks kinda like Gunny's...I guess Navy and Army can get along .
The black MOE Vert Grip - not sure if I like a vert grip enough to pay for another one in FDE, so I just left it black for now. Added the STR, Vickers sling and IO/Tango Down Micro cover today. Not to mention my one and only FDE Mag lol. "For Photo Use Only "
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And I don't know why my safety crosspin is so oily, I think I've wiped that sucker down about 5 times already 
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Blugrass if you ever take the TROY panels off for cleaning or whatever, if you think about it could you take a few pics of the ext handguard... no one around here carries it and I can't find to many pics of it installed online...
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Alright Gunny, we are getting awful close lol...
I notice you have your forward sling mount in the forward slot vs the rear-most slot which seems to be all the rage now. Any reason for going all they way forward? I tried it there but it seemed to get in the way of my grip...
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Your rig is really looking good.
I mounted the sling mount forward because it gave me the most grip options. I can hold the hand guard and vertical grip similar to the AFG.
I can use just the vertical grip.
Or, I can use a more traditional grip on the hand guard.
When it's mounted to the rear, it hangs the muzzle a little lower and gets in the way if I want to just use the hand guard. I've always been different, but it works for me.
I've considered mounting an AFG closer to the mag well and removing the other vertical grip. If I do that, I can the use the AFG or extend my hand forward and still use the hand guard for the more traditional grip.
And yes, Army and Navy can get along. 
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Been posting it in the pics thread, but here is my FDE revision of the M&P 15 OR/ORC...getting close to complete. Looks kinda like Gunny's...I guess Navy and Army can get along .
The black MOE Vert Grip - not sure if I like a vert grip enough to pay for another one in FDE, so I just left it black for now. Added the STR, Vickers sling and IO/Tango Down Micro cover today. Not to mention my one and only FDE Mag lol. "For Photo Use Only "
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Vltor upper, Aero Precision lower. Duracoat Magpul FDE (Obviously not a perfect match).
I had a Magpul AFG on it but didn't really take to it, it's on the M&P 15-22 now. I find that I actually use the vertical grip like an AFG as opposed to gripping the grip with my whole hand. Go figure!
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Have you considered how hot the gas block gets? That Magpul front sight is plastic, right?
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The Magpul Pro BUIS's are all metal. A really nice buis, imo. Easy to adjust but firm enough they won't loose zero. Manual flip up/down with solid detents. They are very low profile, the rear sight blends right with the rear of the upper unlike Troy, MI, PRI's, Magpul Polymer, etc which stick out like a sore thumb imo. The the front sight is also much lower profile that most others - these are same plane sights designed for railed fore-end, but since the OR has a rail height gas block they line up perfect.
At first I though I wanted the Troy/MI design, since it defaults to the large aperture (short yardarge) when flipped up, but I find I shoot the small aperture most of the time anyway, so it's a win/win. That and recent Troy politics...meh I went with the Magpul.
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Yep I like your hand position, on mine the with the gas block the way it is I was worried about inadvertently hitting/grabbing it and burning my fingers or what not... also why I moved the V. grip back one slot as well. May be non-issue, though - just didn't want to find out the hard way lol.
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Yep I like your hand position, on mine the with the gas block the way it is I was worried about inadvertently hitting/grabbing it and burning my fingers or what not... also why I moved the V. grip back one slot as well. May be non-issue, though - just didn't want to find out the hard way lol.
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get a longer hand guard....... that's why I used a 13". Yesterday was the first time shooting it. I attach a bipod on the end, works great, shot amazing..
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The Magpul Pro BUIS's are all metal. A really nice buis, imo. Easy to adjust but firm enough they won't loose zero. Manual flip up/down with solid detents. They are very low profile, the rear sight blends right with the rear of the upper unlike Troy, MI, PRI's, Magpul Polymer, etc which stick out like a sore thumb imo. The the front sight is also much lower profile that most others - these are same plane sights designed for railed fore-end, but since the OR has a rail height gas block they line up perfect.
At first I though I wanted the Troy/MI design, since it defaults to the large aperture (short yardarge) when flipped up, but I find I shoot the small aperture most of the time anyway, so it's a win/win. That and recent Troy politics...meh I went with the Magpul.
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I have the same rear sight on my gun. It's a nice high quality sight.
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I have considered it, just have limited options without changing the gas block out. UTG makes one in their Pro line that will go around the OR gas block with minor modifications (see BluGrass's posts above), but other than that I don't think there are too many choices. It's on the "pondering" list
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I have considered it, just have limited options without changing the gas block out. UTG makes one in their Pro line that will go around the OR gas block with minor modifications (see BluGrass's posts above), but other than that I don't think there are too many choices. It's on the "pondering" list |
heck, change out the gas block, it's cheap. Then you can use whatever you want for a hand guard.... free floater is the way to go...
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I see also DD, Centurian and MI make an extended setup ranging from $250-400. Honestly before I'd drop $400 on a DD rail I'd rather allocate those funds for a SPR build . The MI pieces look intriguing though...
I'm honestly not too sure how much I like the MOE handguards, being realistic. I figured I'd try them since the cost is minimal, but may wind up with the stock carbine guards back on anyway. Just fun trying new things I may still do a gas block change as well...
EDIT - actually as I think about it, if I do change to something other than the MOE or std M4 style I'll surely go FF so would be removing/changing the block anyway.
And I thought I spent too much money on fishing tackle... sheesh. Where are the cheap hobbies, anyway? lol. Dang that reminds me I need to order some new gearsets for a couple reels.
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Good to know about the MagPul Pro, I thought that might be the case.
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BTW, the FDE AR did good today at the 3-gun, wasn't sure what to expect with the 14.5" barrel and non-free-float barrel, but we done good! I put my Eotech up against a lot of scopes and outdid many of them! Don't sell your quality red-dot short! 8" steel out to about 275yds or so, but the 1MOA dot did the deed.
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And here is mine. Since I am left-handed, I wanted to add some of the ambidextrous accessories when I converted my S&W M&P 15T to flat dark earth. Thanks to the other forum members for helping me decide on parts and suppliers!
Total parts list: MOE carbine length stock (# MAG400FDE); MOE Grip (# MAG415FDE); MOE Vertical Grip for Rail (# MAG412FDE); Magpul Magazine (# MAG570FDE); Magpul Ladder Rail Protectors –FDE; Magpul Extended Rubber Butt Pad (# MAG317); Monstrum S3940-M Scope with Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle and Integrated Red Laser Sight; Troy Ambidextrous Bolt Release; Troy Industries Ambidextrous Magazine Release; Battle Arms FDE Ambi Safety Selector; BCM Gunfighter Mod 44 Ambi-Laser Etched; FDE Etched Ejection Port Cover-from thunderboltgunworks
The only thing missing is the sling. The new butt stock requires Uncle Mike's Super Swivels to go into the lanyard hole for the sling attachment.
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And here is mine. Since I am left-handed, I wanted to add some of the ambidextrous accessories when I converted my S&W M&P 15T to flat dark earth. Thanks to the other forum members for helping me decide on parts and suppliers!
Total parts list: MOE carbine length stock (# MAG400FDE); MOE Grip (# MAG415FDE); MOE Vertical Grip for Rail (# MAG412FDE); Magpul Magazine (# MAG570FDE); Magpul Ladder Rail Protectors –FDE; Magpul Extended Rubber Butt Pad (# MAG317); Monstrum S3940-M Scope with Illuminated Mil-Dot Reticle and Integrated Red Laser Sight; Troy Ambidextrous Bolt Release; Troy Industries Ambidextrous Magazine Release; Battle Arms FDE Ambi Safety Selector; BCM Gunfighter Mod 44 Ambi-Laser Etched; FDE Etched Ejection Port Cover-from thunderboltgunworks
The only thing missing is the sling. The new butt stock requires Uncle Mike's Super Swivels to go into the lanyard hole for the sling attachment.
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At first I though I wanted the Troy/MI design, since it defaults to the large aperture (short yardarge) when flipped up, but I find I shoot the small aperture most of the time anyway, so it's a win/win. That and recent Troy politics...meh I went with the Magpul.
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Also posted in the main thread, but since it's more FDE goodness, I'll throw it in here also...
Local LGS heavily recommends Troy's, so I will give them a fair shake for a few weeks - Worst case I hate them and he will take them back...
So a touch more FDE for the thread... Also dumped the MOE grip, just don't care for it on a carbine length handguard. I'll just grab the magwell for CQB/Clearing drills, etc.
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JaPes, you need to make that happen!!!!
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I have a Sig 220 at the shop having a burnt bronze Cerakote applied. I'll see how that turns out first.
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I just saw a burnt bronze Glock slide this week, what an awesome color!
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I just saw a burnt bronze Glock slide this week, what an awesome color!
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Pictures don't do the burnt bronze coating justice.
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