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Bipod help
Can anyone recommend a bipod? Mostly a prone one for shooting on a bench. Show some pics of yours with a bipod
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04-05-2014, 07:25 PM
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Harris makes a good bipod:
HBR Harris Bipod 6" to 9"
You could check out the Picture Section to get some visuals.
Happy shopping....
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There are pretty much 3 bipods out there, unless you start getting exotic.
There are the UTG/NCStar/China "Harris-Style" bipods that run in the $20-40 range. The Harris Bipods, which range from $70-$120 or so depending on options, and the Atlas, which runs around $250 or so typically.
Short version, start with the Harris. If you are doing a lot of bench/prone/competition shooting, or just have money falling out of your pockets, then you might want to look at the Atlas, but Harris is pretty much the standard. Avoid the cheap china copies, they just won't last. I'm sure someone will post saying how great their $25 China Knock-off Bipod is, but the reality is if you just want to buy it once go ahead and get the Harris.
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04-08-2014, 10:34 AM
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How "good" of a one do you want. I have a grip on the front that has a button on it. Push button and bipod pops out the bottom. Not the greatest but it's light and works.
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I bought a UTG "Tactical" last year shown in picture mounted on my Colt AR-15.Probably only cost $30 bucks and serves my purpose.
It's adjustable but not dependable.Works great when either all the way up or all the way down.I had one leg collapse on me when shooting because the screw wasn't tight enough.
You do want to make sure that whatever you buy it will allow clearance for whatever mag you use.
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I bought a used Harris bi-pod some time ago. It has found it's way onto several different rifles, but really no home.
When shooting for accuracy at distance, I actually prefer a bag.
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The GPS bipod military use cost $100-120 on their website. Ebay you can find from $50-$70
Serve 2 purposes. Light weight
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Can anyone recommend a bipod? Mostly a prone one for shooting on a bench. Show some pics of yours with a bipod
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First, you must have a free floating barrel type handguard. Otherwise your point of impacts will vary tremendously.
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I picked up a Caldwell bipod at BassPro a couple years ago that attaches directly to my pic rail. Cost $60 and has held up great after thousands of rounds. Its definitely not the best thing out there but it gets the job done.
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A Harris bipod is under $100. It will likely last forever and can be used on any gun. I don't see much value in trying to save money on a cheaper version.
While I do not use them on ARs I have two 6-9 Harris SBRM with the additional torque lever (a must have). On an AR use 10 or 20rd mags to solve any clearance issues.
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The GPS bipod military use cost $100-120 on their website. Ebay you can find from $50-$70
Serve 2 purposes. Light weight
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I tried one of these on a friends rifle and it was probably the worst bi pod I have ever used. Didn't feel solid at all and felt gimmicky. Weight is not an issue (for me at least) when utilizing a bi pod, shooting prone or on a bench.
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I bought a used Harris bi-pod some time ago. It has found it's way onto several different rifles, but really no home.
When shooting for accuracy at distance, I actually prefer a bag.
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Agreed.....a good bag or range bag works perfectly. Bi pods still have too much flex IMO.
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I tried one of these on a friends rifle and it was probably the worst bi pod I have ever used. Didn't feel solid at all and felt gimmicky. Weight is not an issue (for me at least) when utilizing a bi pod, shooting prone.
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You sure your friend buying the real thing not 10 bucks knock off looks alike? It's so solid and steady for me and US soldiers use them.
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You sure your friend buying the real thing not 10 bucks knock off looks alike? It's so solid and steady for me and US soldiers use them.
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Well if US soldiers use them, they gotta be good! I've had so much flight gear and IA trash issued to me over the last 12 years I could start my own store.....most of it complete lowest bidder rubbish!
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Well if US soldiers use them, they gotta be good! I've had so much flight gear and IA trash issued to me over the last 12 years I could start my own store.....most of it complete lowest bidder rubbish!
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Unless one works for the military for any length of time, they have no idea what kind of **** gets handed to us because it was what the lowest bidder offered for the contract.
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Harris 6-9" FTW
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Unless one works for the military for any length of time, they have no idea what kind of **** gets handed to us because it was what the lowest bidder offered for the contract.
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This is not quite true. It's nowhere near as simple as whoever is the lowest bidder.
The acquisition process is a nightmare. Often we actually buy things that are more expensive just because one company stuck the process out. That's actually one reason we ended up with the Beretta 92FS; other companies dropped out.
Take a look:
Believe it or not, the reason the government buys some ****** stuff is usually because the end user failed to write a quality Statement of Requirements. For example:
If you want an Aimpoint, there are a couple of ways to write it. You say, "I want an Aimpoint Comp M4." Then it depends on the contract officer as to what happens next. A good contract officer will call you up and ask what actual requirements you have. Most will simply ignore the request and try to find a "suitable substitute" that meets the same specs. Because they don't understand your job, or what you really need it for, they will look up specs, but not delve too deeply. They might discover that it's a red dot. So, they find an EOTech that is 10% cheaper. They won't buy the EOTech because it's not more than 15% cheaper. Then they might find a Vortex Strikefire. It's much less than the Aimpoint so they buy it. You and I know it's not as durable, but they don't. Had the durability been written into the original request, you'd get the Aimpoint.
So, if anyone is reading this, be careful on how you write the requirements document.
For the rest of us, just because the military uses it, doesn't mean it's good. Consider the Bradley.
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There are several versions of the Grip Pod, including polymer legs, aluminum and stainless steel. The criteria are light weight, fast deploy legs, clear a 30rd mag and dual purpose grip/bi-pod. While the Harris is a fine bi-pod for my Rem 700 bolt action, it doesn't meet the any of the above duty criteria of a Grip Pod. Two different purposes... apples/oranges.
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good write up Rastoff......at least we got Colt!
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Actually, we have a lot of good equipment in the government. It's just that people don't understand the system. The same could be said for anything.
Here's a situation I ran into.
I have an acquaintance who's a contract officer. She got a request for a spectrum analyzer. The one they requested cost $75K and wasn't already in the system. Unfortunately, the requestor didn't specify one thing, he needed a resolution bandwidth capability of 10Hz. Now, I'll bet lunch for a month that I'm the only one currently responding to this thread that even has a clue to what that means. That's where the problem is, neither did the lady I was talking to. She had found another spectrum analyzer that didn't have that capability and was in the process of getting it when she talked to me. Fortunately for all involved, I knew the guy that wanted it and was able to get the necessary info. We got the right tool, not the $75K one, but one that cost less and still had the right function. Had she ordered what she originally intended, it would have been a $50K boat anchor.
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Harris probably better but cost 3 times more than mine. I am very happy with my model, very solid and made with aluminum not plastic. Dont have exposed springs which I hate. Made in US:
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Harris probably better but cost 3 times more than mine. I am very happy with my model, very solid and made with aluminum not plastic. Dont have exposed springs which I hate. Made in US:
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do you shoot using your vert grip with pod attached?
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do you shoot using your vert grip with pod attached?
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yes, bipod legs are folding to the front. also vertical handle is foldable other direction if I need.
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My Blackhawk bipod. I believe it's a 6"-9", it'll run you about $45 at Walmart.
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So what's the big deal? He leaves his bi-pod affixed, folds the legs forward when he doesn't need to use it. He also has a folding front grip.
Might not be my thing, but I don't see any "facepalm" there.
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i also use a bi-pod and front grip. bi-pod for prone shooting and grip for doing ready up drills.
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So what's the big deal? He leaves his bi-pod affixed, folds the legs forward when he doesn't need to use it. He also has a folding front grip.
Might not be my thing, but I don't see any "facepalm" there.
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The entire purpose of a vert grip is to increase your pivot point during CQC, clearing rooms etc....why on earth would you leave a big, heavy, bulky bi pod on the end of your weapon system, as it defeats the purpose of the vert grip to begin with? It is okay to ask why.......I wish everyone would watch this video series!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xX-4e9sLSGo
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Bipod help
I still do not see what the problem is. The guy can go prone and have the bi-pod there. If he's close quarters, he can fold up the bi-pod and go to work. For example, aliens invade the planet. The OP is in an urban area and only has his rifle, sidearm, and a cache of ammo. OP sets up a sniper hide in a multi story building. A bipod may be useful. The aliens zero in on his hide, and he has to make a hasty retreat. Fold up the bipod legs, and exit.
My stance is that if the S hits the F, I may be on my own. I don't have the luxury of dividing up specialized roles over a squad. I may have to be as multi role as possible. Will having a bipod on the end of my rifle be heavy? Sure it will, but that would be the least of my worries. In a SHTF, I can easily remove items from my rifle while on run. It's less likely I can add to it. My priorities and needs may not align to a internet video series due to my regional environment.
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I like aliens.....it's not problematic, it just lacks rationale!
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Notched legs are handy for verifying both legs are set to the same height.
I have a Caldwell on my 15/22 and a Harris for my AR and the Harris is much better.
The Caldwell has no notches, the legs aren't spring loaded and the twisting, threaded friction lock on the legs leaves lots to be desired.
Push the realease on the Harris and the legs deploy fully every time because they are spring loaded.
But, the Harris costs 3x's the cost of the Caldwell. (But worth it!)
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Harris probably better but cost 3 times more than mine. I am very happy with my model, very solid and made with aluminum not plastic. Dont have exposed springs which I hate. Made in US:
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Always been a Harris guy, but picked one of these up after seeing your post, and also seeing the positive comments on NutnFancy...
Have to say I'm pretty impressed. I also have always hated the springs, but they seemed like the only option unless you wanted to drop a few bills. This UTG model mounted fine to a L2 rail on my MOE handguard, and is plenty sturdy for my impromptu range sessions. Less bulk and weight, less busy, legs deploy fine, lock in place, stay extended or collapsed when you want them to, at least so far. I think it's a keeper, especially at 1/4 the cost of my Harris.
And, for thecatch8's benefit, I exchange the bipod for a moe vertical grip as needed, or run a rail cover over the L2 when neither are attached .
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