Wolf Gold 223
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bhayles
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Yes. Wolf is good ammo.
sgtsandman
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I think Wolf Gold uses bi-metal brass instead of the normal coated steel in their other lines.
05CarbonDRZ
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Wolf Gold is good stuff,Buy with confidence.
Candrews86
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223 Remington (5.56x45mm) 55 gr FMJ Wolf Gold Ammo Box (20 rds)
This place has the 1000 round case for 299.99 with free shipping, just ordered some.
This place has the 1000 round case for 299.99 with free shipping, just ordered some.
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i used that ammo:
1. smells like pure rubbish
2. the recoil increases by at least 25% from say, PMC .223
- i dont find this ammo "worth it". i'd rather pay $1 more per box and get PMC
1. smells like pure rubbish
2. the recoil increases by at least 25% from say, PMC .223
- i dont find this ammo "worth it". i'd rather pay $1 more per box and get PMC
JaPes
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Wolf Gold is brass case, copper FMJ, lead core, non-magnetic, loaded to M193 spec. The primer prockets have a military crimp and are sealed. There is also sealant at the neck of the cartridge.
First of all, you judge the ammo by the way it smells? That's a first for me.
Second, Wolf Gold is loaded to 5.56 NATO (M193) spec, not .223 Remington. The increased pressure and perceived recoil impulse is to be expected.
Just in case you don't know:
"The cartridge casings for both calibers have basically the same length and exterior dimensions.
The 5.56 round, loaded to Military Specification, typically has higher velocity and chamber pressure than the .223 Rem.
The 5.56 cartridge case may have thicker walls, and a thicker head, for extra strength. This better contains the higher chamber pressure. However, a thicker case reduces powder capacity, which is of concern to the reloader.
The 5.56mm and .223 Rem chambers are nearly identical. The difference is in the "Leade". Leade is defined as the portion of the barrel directly in front of the chamber where the rifling has been conically removed to allow room for the seated bullet. It is also more commonly known as the throat. Leade in a .223 Rem chamber is usually .085". In a 5.56mm chamber the leade is typically .162", or almost twice as much as in the 223 Rem chamber.
You can fire .223 Rem cartridges in 5.56mm chambers with this longer leade, but you will generally have a slight loss in accuracy and velocity over firing the .223 round in the chamber with the shorter leade it was designed for.
Problems may occur when firing the higher-pressure 5.56mm cartridge in a .223 chamber with its much shorter leade. It is generally known that shortening the leade can dramatically increase chamber pressure. In some cases, this higher pressure could result in primer pocket gas leaks, blown cartridge case heads and gun functioning issues.The 5.56mm military cartridge fired in a .223 Rem chamber is considered by SAAMI (Small Arm and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) to be an unsafe ammunition combination. "
The 5.56 round, loaded to Military Specification, typically has higher velocity and chamber pressure than the .223 Rem.
The 5.56 cartridge case may have thicker walls, and a thicker head, for extra strength. This better contains the higher chamber pressure. However, a thicker case reduces powder capacity, which is of concern to the reloader.
The 5.56mm and .223 Rem chambers are nearly identical. The difference is in the "Leade". Leade is defined as the portion of the barrel directly in front of the chamber where the rifling has been conically removed to allow room for the seated bullet. It is also more commonly known as the throat. Leade in a .223 Rem chamber is usually .085". In a 5.56mm chamber the leade is typically .162", or almost twice as much as in the 223 Rem chamber.
You can fire .223 Rem cartridges in 5.56mm chambers with this longer leade, but you will generally have a slight loss in accuracy and velocity over firing the .223 round in the chamber with the shorter leade it was designed for.
Problems may occur when firing the higher-pressure 5.56mm cartridge in a .223 chamber with its much shorter leade. It is generally known that shortening the leade can dramatically increase chamber pressure. In some cases, this higher pressure could result in primer pocket gas leaks, blown cartridge case heads and gun functioning issues.The 5.56mm military cartridge fired in a .223 Rem chamber is considered by SAAMI (Small Arm and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute) to be an unsafe ammunition combination. "
- Paul Nowak, 2001, AR15 forum.
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JaPes
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The brass might need to be annealed.
bhayles
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There is no such thing as "bi-metal brass". There is plated brass (which Wolf ammo is not), but that is not "bi-metal brass".
Bi-metal brass is a figment of someone's imagination, probably made up as a way to disparage Wolf Gold ammo and sound like its scientifically backed up disparagement, not total BS.
Wolf Gold is good stuff...period.
Arik
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Wolf gold has been made by a few different companies. I don't know who makes it now but at one point it was made in Taiwan and in Serbia
https://youtu.be/3z7GB6RD4kI
https://youtu.be/3z7GB6RD4kI
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bhayles
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The ammunition is mostly manufactured by Tulskiy Patronniy Zavod (Tula Cartridge Plant) in Tula, Tula District, Russia.
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sgtsandman
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That was not a disparaging comment. Wolf is not the only one that is listed with bi-metal brass. Some Lake City is listed that way as well. Whether is actually bi-metal or not, I can't really say. Maybe it is listed that way because of the discoloration from the annealing process.
Sorry if I ruffled some feathers.
gunny4053
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Little Trees will fix that smell thing.
And.....since I shoot an AR, I doubt I'd notice that recoil increase anyway. It may be time to pry some cash out and order some of it. 
MichiganScott
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Price is pretty much back to pre-Sandy Hook levels. I wouldn't expect it to go down much more.
What I would expect is for prices to skyrocket the next time there is a shooting of any sort or even a rumor of some new government restrictions. Seen any cheap M855 lately?
Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
JaPes
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^^^ This.
After meeting your financial obligations...
After securing the consumables and necessities of life...
After meeting your savings goals...
After taking care of the family's "fun budget"...
Then go and buy ammo.
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