cccollin545
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Would This be a good SHTF rifle? I really love mine and its deadly accurate. Do any of you here use it as a SHTF rifle?
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SHTF M&P 15 sport
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cyphertext
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I try not to let the SHTF around my house at a level that would require a rifle....
However, if you are asking if the Sport is good enough for zombies or homeland defense rifle then the answer is yes... If will be fine in that role. Any rifle that is reliable and that you shoot well can fill that role.
However, if you are asking if the Sport is good enough for zombies or homeland defense rifle then the answer is yes... If will be fine in that role. Any rifle that is reliable and that you shoot well can fill that role.
For me it comes down to trust. Do I trust the Sport? No question. Absolutely.
Out of approx 2,000 rounds I've had:
Failure to Feed: 0
Failure to Eject: 0
Failure to Fire: 1
That failure to fire was a reload that didn't have a fully seated primer. It fired when I attempted it the second time.
So, literally, the gun has been flawless.
Out of approx 2,000 rounds I've had:
Failure to Feed: 0
Failure to Eject: 0
Failure to Fire: 1
That failure to fire was a reload that didn't have a fully seated primer. It fired when I attempted it the second time.
So, literally, the gun has been flawless.
crracer_712
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I'd have air fresheners on hand, and some cleaning supplies. SHTF is no laughing matter, haven't you seen the original 'Airplane' movie?
https://youtu.be/aZdp46Jen_w
https://youtu.be/aZdp46Jen_w
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I think it's a poor choice, but I think pretty much a rifle of any kind is a poor choice for any reasonably realistic "SHTF" scenarios. I'm just not much into zombie apocalypse fantasies and would go with a Glock 17.
Why a handgun should be your first SHTF weapon purchase for self-defense
WILSON DEFENSE JOURNAL: Role of the Handgun
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Why a handgun should be your first SHTF weapon purchase for self-defense
WILSON DEFENSE JOURNAL: Role of the Handgun
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cccollin545
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I already have an xd 9 for the handgun, I was just asking about the rifle in general. Interesting links through thanks
cyphertext
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A handgun is used to fight your way to a long gun. Both are valuable. If defending my property during a time of civil unrest, I'll take the high capacity, semi auto rifle.
Think about the Rodney King riots, or the Ferguson riots.... shopkeepers defended their storefronts with rifles from the rooftops. During Katrina, some who decided to stay in place defended their homes with rifles from looters.
In times of civil unrest, I would have both rifle and handgun.
Kadonny
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The Sport would make a terrific SHTF gun, or a gun for most SD scenarios at your home. Fairly compact, light, high capacity, reliable and accurate. Yup, would make a fine choice.
Just throwing in a different perspective most don't consider. I'm only interested in protecting life not property, let alone the idea of sniping at looters with an AR from rooftops. In terms of a visual deterrent or in situations where you have taken up a fixed location, the rifle is extremely viable although not vital IMO. The ability to quickly conceal, use one handed and maneuverability when mobile makes the handgun superior if limited to one choice. If I was to get another AR, I would honestly skip the M&P 15 sport and likely choose a Colt although I think the higher end M&P 15 models are a pretty good choice.
JaPes
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I don't.
I'm no commando. I know what my used and abused 41 year old body is capable of. Maybe if I didn't treat my body like a carnival ride with no thought of the future when I was younger, things would be different. Truth literally hurts. The knees aren't what they used to be. Weightlifting for maximum strength from age 17 through 34 means my elbows, shoulders, and wrists are always aching. Getting thrown around an Aikido or Jiu Jitsu mat didn't help. I'm carrying around 40 pounds around my midsection that I shouldn't be.
My painful reality is that even if I decided to rely upon any firearm in a SHTF, my current physical state would mean I wouldn't last long (even if I fought as dirty as possible). I need to fix myself first because right now, my SHTF priority is having an ample supply of my hypertension medicine and a pallet of ibuprofen.
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Good post (as usual). At 63 years old I'd be in the same boat, or worse. However, I never want to feel helpless. I'd go down fighting. Maybe pretty quickly.
cyphertext
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Protecting one's home from looters during a time of civil unrest is not quite the same as "sniping at looters with an AR from rooftops". And by protecting my property such as shelter and food, I am protecting the lives of my family.
The rifle is a much better choice for protection of a fixed location... Most can shoot a rifle more accurately, more power, and typically higher capacity. No need to worry about concealment or how heavy ammo is either when protecting a fixed location.
Why would I be limited to only one choice? If I am staying put in my home, I am only limited by the number of rounds I have on hand. If I am forced to leave the home, I am still taking a long gun in addition to a handgun... and probably more than one of each.
Yes, a handgun is easier to conceal, but I will have a long gun close at hand too.
Please tell why... You get more features on a higher end rifle, but not features that are absolutely required... The BCG in the Sport is the same BCG as found in the rest of the M&P 15 lineup. My Sport has a 1:8 twist, just like some of the high end M&Ps, and a newer Sport has a 1:9 twist just like most of the M&P line up. Forward assist, dust cover, and heat shields in a handguard don't make a higher end rifle anymore suited for the task than the Sport.
As long as the rifle is reliable, and you can operate it proficiently, the type really doesn't matter. I would feel just as well armed with my Sport as with my BCM. My Mini 14 or SKS would serve me just as well. Even my Marlin 336 (lever action) could be employed as a rifle for self defense. I've even been known to grab a shotgun a time or two when things have gone bump in the night.
vonn
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Have read similar discussions many times and seen many opinions of what is the best option in times of need. To me I think whatever you are proficient with is your best choice but whatever is at hand when needed is better than nothing.
TheMaineEvent
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The Sport can handle just about anything the average Joe would put it through that a high-end Daniel Defense can. That's the truth.
I NEVER used the forward assist in the Army and the lack of a dust cover really isn't an issue for 99% of us since we're not going to be crawling through mud or be in a sandy environment.
I would be more concerned about the quality of optics than the rifle followed by the amount of ammo and mags on hand. The rifle is a non-issue for us Joes.
I NEVER used the forward assist in the Army and the lack of a dust cover really isn't an issue for 99% of us since we're not going to be crawling through mud or be in a sandy environment.
I would be more concerned about the quality of optics than the rifle followed by the amount of ammo and mags on hand. The rifle is a non-issue for us Joes.
crracer_712
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I call BS! When you do run in to Zombies, if you don't have the following, which I built for just such frequent emergencies, you might as well put hinges on your lid so they don't have to crush your skull...
I've literally had some see the 'Zombie Certified' and run away!
crracer_712
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I should also mention when trolling the woods, I pack the LCP-Z Zombie Slayer if I'm in close quarters with them, of course it's loaded with Z-Max ammo, duh....
Arik
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You know, I have something similar on my SBR stock. It's a large sticker with a skull and the words "ZOMBIE RESPONSE TEAM". I don't really want that sticker there but the SBR price was too good to pass up, even with that large white sticker on a black stock. I thought about removing it but it's on there pretty good and would just leave a lot of scratches and glue residue. As you can see its the one on the leftI call BS! When you do run in to Zombies, if you don't have the following, which I built for just such frequent emergencies, you might as well put hinges on your lid so they don't have to crush your skull...
I've literally had some see the 'Zombie Certified' and run away!
crracer_712
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My M&P15A didn't have a heat shield in the hand guard. I changed that out as soon as I saw it didn't have one so I wouldn't be more apt to die.
crracer_712
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You know, I have something similar on my SBR stock. It's a large sticker with a skull and the words "ZOMBIE RESPONSE TEAM". I don't really want that sticker there but the SBR price was too good to pass up, even with that large white sticker on a black stock. I thought about removing it but it's on there pretty good and would just leave a lot of scratches and glue residue. As you can see its the one on the left
Wise choice to leave that sticker, some of those Zombies can read and they'll know to look elsewhere.
