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Old 12-11-2015, 07:10 AM
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20150713_154155.jpgLooking at a M&P 15 to purchase w/magpul furniture, aim-point red dot, surefire tach lite, ten mags 30 supposedly fired only 100 rds. what would be fair price to give

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Old 12-11-2015, 09:24 AM
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The price will depend on the base model of rifle and which Aimpoint it wears. The mags are maybe $10 each and the Surefire will add another $25-$50, again depending on model. The Magpul furniture may or may not be original to the rifle.
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First, which M&P? There are several versions. The cheapest is missing the dust cover and the forward assist. I believe those are in the $550 +/- new. Aim point start around $400 but older models can be found for $200 or even less sometimes. Mags also vary in price. Milsurp mags are $15 - $20 depending on condition. HK mags are $30 +/-, Pmags $15 or slightly less. Generic mags can be as little as $5 - $7. Mag pull basic furniture (handguard, pistol grip and stock) around $75 - $100. And you have to know the model of the surefire. They can go from $200 - $1200

Assuming it's all cheaper stuff
Rifle $550
Mags split the difference $10 x10. $100
Surefire $200
Furniture $100
Aim point $200

Looking around $1100 - $1200. Take off that whatever "USED" means. 100 rounds is only part of the equation. Was it 100 rounds in one day and they decided they didn't like it or was it a 100 rounds and then the rifle spent 6 months bouncing around in the trunk accumulating scratches?

Also take into consideration the current climate of firearm purchases, both for you and the seller. Is he just looking to sell a rifle he didn't like or is he trying to take advantage of the current situation. Same for you. Are you just looking for an AR or are you trying to "beat the ban" if any! If it was me that rifle would be worth up too a $1000 (condition dependent). I may go a little more.....maybe $100 more depending in the Aim Point and the surefire.

Mags aside the one thing I will say is that it does have quality accessories. Aim point (a Swedish company) and surefire are top of the line. If you don't like them you shouldn't have a problem selling them

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Without knowing the specifics it's impossible'e to know. Aimpoint could be a $350 ACO or a $700 Micro. Surefire could be a cheap $50 G2x or $300 Scout.

Really, no one would ask for a value on these things without specifics unless they had no idea what they were looking at. Time to do some homework before entertaining the idea of purchasing.
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Without knowing the specifics it's impossible'e to know. Aimpoint could be a $350 ACO or a $700 Micro. Surefire could be a cheap $50 G2x or $300 Scout.

Really, no one would ask for a value on these things without specifics unless they had no idea what they were looking at. Time to do some homework before entertaining the idea of purchasing.
Exactly. Depending upon the models, the aimpoint and surefire could be worth more than the rifle. Like Phil said, do some homework and ask the seller the specifics of each piece.
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Thanks for the replies, the model is just the M&P15 nothing after the 15, 811000 is the sku, retails for 1249 on S&W site. I have pics of the aimpoint but they are not clear enough for the part number, thanks again. I will try and post pics.
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Exactly. Depending upon the models, the aimpoint and surefire could be worth more than the rifle. Like Phil said, do some homework and ask the seller the specifics of each piece.
The only thing I have to go by is the pics and they dont really show part numbers, I have never owned an AR so that is why I am asking for help.
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Let's start here: What's the asking price?
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Aimpoint looks like a Pro (although knock-offs look pretty close too). New $400
Handguard looks like a dime store UTG. Worthless.
Not sure about the Surefire.
Looks like A2 sight was replaced with railed gas block. Worthless unless that's what you want.
Front sight looks like it's off my 15-22. Worthless
Rear sight?

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The only thing I have to go by is the pics and they dont really show part numbers, I have never owned an AR so that is why I am asking for help.
The only option for knowing specifics of each piece is to ask the seller, otherwise it's just a guess. Kind of like saying I'm looking at buying a Chevrolet, could be a Cavalier or a Corvette. From the pictures everything looks brand new but personalized to a particular taste, like mentioned above... what is the asking price? Then we can tell you to run as fast as you can to get it or run as fast as you can away from it
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asking price is 975.00
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If he's still got the original parts that ChattanoogaPhil talked about that were replaced, buy it. If not, offer $850 and ask for ammo.
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Found out the Aim-point is a Patrol Rifle Optic 12841, saw lights similar on e-bay around 150. plus 300 rds ammo, brand not specified. 975.00, wont go any lower, thanks for the help.

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Similar lights are not the same as Surefire. Just like a chines no name ACOG is not a ACOG. Just saying.
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Found out the Aim-point is a Patrol Rifle Optic 12841, saw lights similar on e-bay around 150. plus 300 rds ammo, brand not specified. 975.00, wont go any lower, thanks for the help.
You are looking at around $400 for the Aimpoint, at least $200 for the Surefire and $100 worth of mags, so it's basically like getting a top of the line AR for less than $300, go for it before someone else does!
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Depends on what you want. If the Aimpoint Pro is what you want.... Minus $400 optic = $575 rifle.
Can you get the specifics on the Surefire? If it's worth $200 or more that puts the rifle under $400. Depends on what you want.
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You are looking at around $400 for the Aimpoint, at least $200 for the Surefire and $100 worth of mags, so it's basically like getting a top of the line AR for less than $300, go for it before someone else does!
Funny... We were thinking the same thing and hit the Send button at the same minute.
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Meeting in the morning, thanks again for all the help, will keep updated if you're interested.
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Meeting in the morning, thanks again for all the help, will keep updated if you're interested.
Be sure to, and after a while in the AR world you will figure out what a smokin deal you got, I see you mentioned 300 rounds of ammo with it in another post so that's around another $100 if it's brass and a little less if steel case but either way is just icing on the cake. Good luck with everything.
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Be sure to, and after a while in the AR world you will figure out what a smokin deal you got, I see you mentioned 300 rounds of ammo with it in another post so that's around another $100 if it's brass and a little less if steel case but either way is just icing on the cake. Good luck with everything.
Will do for sure, thanks for the guidance and will probably have a few more questions for you.
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Will do for sure, thanks for the guidance and will probably have a few more questions for you.
Feel free to ask if you do. Lots of good folks with good advice on this forum.
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