Normally I wouldn't post something like this but I've seen some comments here about how a sling is not useful at a range or for competitions. I just wanted to say how much I disagree with that. The main purpose of a sling is to get a more steady hold on a rifle. That means better accuracy which is great at the range or in certain competitions.

I just know that I can shoot much more accurate when I use my sling as it was intended to be used. No I haven't tried one on my AR yet but I've used them on countless other rifles. They improve accuracy if they are used as they should be. Carrying a rifle is secondary to that purpose and so is holding on to a rifle better in a CQB situation.

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I like to use a sling when firing with no support. But I REALLY NEED a sling when I go on one of my half or full day walks along the Kentucky River and want to bring an AR. A standard shoulder sling.

Opinions differ, no need to get upset about it. No life or death situation here.

FWIW, I want to have a sling for a long gun, just like I'd want to have a holster for a handgun

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CJ, I hope in stating the above that you mean for your own particular uses and purposes as opposed to defining its use for everyone else.

As Rastoff and I kind of hashed out in a recent thread, each person will (hopefully) have his own set of reasons as to why they would want to employ a sling or not.

For my particular uses, the sling is really never used for support. But I still have several reasons why I want one on my rifle. (And if I should ever need to use it to support a difficult shot, all the better.)

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Of course I don't speak for everyone and I am certainly not upset that others may not care for using a sling. All I said was that some said there was no value at all for a sling at a gun range or in a competition. For many people that just isn't true. Whether some choose to use a sling in any fashion is their choice of course but it is common knowledge they can improve your accuracy when firing off hand. For example there are competitions at Camp Perry where pretty much everyone uses a sling. They really do steady your hold quite a bit.

Thanks for clarifying.

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There are carrying straps and their are slings. Try telling someone that just cleaned a stage at a high power competition that slings are of no help steadying a rifle. We need an "astounded" emoticon.

I have slings on most of my rifles and those that don't is because I haven't gotten around to buying one yet. Some of the comments are right, most of the time you don't actually need one. I certainly don't need it when at a bench rest range or a local indoor range but I do use them in training courses where they are needed. In the end of the day I'd rather have if and not use if then not have it. When visiting static ranges the sling doesn't get in the way. To me it kinda like the forward assist, it fine and doesn't get in the way and if I need it it's there

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I use a single point sling myself at the range..
Typically I run drills going from rifle to pistol and the single sling works better for me....

I don't have slings on my benchrest or varmint type rifles. They get in the way on a benchrest rifle. But I don't see an AR as a benchrest type rifle. I know they can be used that way but they were designed as a battle rifle which means firing from standing, kneeling or lying down and maybe some other ways if you have to. For that type of shooting a sling helps me. I use quick adjust slings so I can change how I use them depending on the situation.

I have a sling on every rifle and shotgun I own that will take one without drilling. I always use a 1" black nylon sling with metal sliders. Thus far this has worked out well for me.

I have been very pleased with the Magpul MS4.

While certainly not inexpensive in my view, the ability to quickly adjust size, transition from two point to single point carry as well as install or remove in a moment using mounted QD hardware is top shelf in my book.

I have a 15 year old version of the Blackhawk Swift Sling on my shotgun.

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Slings separate range toys from working guns. At the range I can always tell which guns come from the safe to the range in a case and back again...no sling.

Every AR needs a sling.

How else can you carry a rifle, nine 30rd mags and do the macerena?

Do working guns require slings or do range toys?

I have put Turner slings on several rifles, including an M1A and a Marlin 45-70 Guide Gun. A sling not only makes it easier to carry the rifle, but muzzle-down over the left shoulder becomes an instant hasty-sling when you raise it to battery. Locked in with a sling, the rifle becomes and extension of your eyeball.

Just as an update I installed my Allen fast adjust sling a few days ago. I removed the swivels on it and installed directly to the rifle. It took me a while to figure out how to take those slings apart and get them back together right but they work great once you get them installed right. You can adjust to whatever style of sling support you want to use and you can do it in just a second or two. I've been using them for years. They're very inexpensive (under $12) but work like a charm. And of course my aim got a lot more steady when shooting off hand. A lot more. I've used them for years and they work great. It doesn't take a lot of money to make something work right at least sometimes.

I have never bought a sling. Dad worked with leather when I was younger. every sling on every gun, as well as every belt and every wallet that I ever had until his passing was handmade leather.

Now my AR's sport traditional two point paracord slings that I have weaved myself. I still need to make one for my wife's. To be more correct with that, she needs to decide on colors for me to make a sling for hers. I also need make a single point for my AR for some competitons that i am going to be doing in the future.

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Good to hear your sling is working out well for you CJ. Is it a one or two point?

2 point. I have never liked a 1 point sling. I have one that's been in my gun stuff box for many years collecting dust. I know there are situations where a 1 point is better but I don't figure on being in those kinds of situations.

I'm a pragmatist. Function over form for me. If a situation arises where a sling will be helpful, then sling it is. However, I do not ascribe the notion that you can tell who's a real shooter by whether or not their gun has a sling.

I see it in training classes all the time. Guys show up on day one with a ton of gear. They have all the latest "tacticool" stuff. By day 4 they've whittled it down to what they really need vs what they thought all the "operators" used.

You want a sling? I say get/make the best sling you can afford and learn how to use it. You don't want a sling? OK, you can still shoot with me. I don't judge a shooter by what he brings to the range or hangs off his rifle. I judge a shooter by whether or not his bullets land where he says he can put them.

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I got about the cheapest sling I could ever find except for the Allen slings that are quick adjust. Still I love the thing. I've been shooting with slings for many years. I know how to make them work for me. I'm not about to say everyone needs one. I just know they help me a lot.

I think I got you beat, my single point bungee sling came free with my attachment ring..
Sure its made in china but its actually well made and it gets the job done, Oh and did I mention it was free..

Yeah but how much did it cost?

So I moved to magpul canine length handguard and lost access to front sling post when doing so.

Can someone help me with these quick disconnect slings? These can just mount on handguard and then second point on stock?

In info with links to Amazon etc would be super helpful. Really appreciate it.


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Magpul for the rail.

IWC for the stock.

I actually have a third Midwest Industries cup over the castle nut so that I can easily transition from two point to single point with the Magpul MS4 sling.

These are what I have on my M&P15 TS which came with no QD cups.

They work great as a system. Not inexpensive but very secure and reliable...and no regrets on my part.

Links are to the products on the parent company sites. They may be available elsewhere for less.

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First, I hope you meant to say "carbine" length, because "dog" length doesn't make any sense.

Second, do you have a pic of your gun? I'm not sure how the Magpul forearm would cover the front sling swivel. It doesn't on my gun.

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For single point you release from handguard and stock, then connect them together via QD, and then to QD endplate.

Not sure which Magpul handguard you have, but if you got the M-LOK handguard you can use QDs with those.

Not an AR but same thing.... Here's my Remington 700 with Magpul M-Lok QD point.