Armor's Tool

Bunkybayonet24 · #1 12-25-2016, 02:31 AM

I did a search on this an couldn't find what I was looking for. So, I know there are several Armor's tools available through several on line services. I was watching a YouTube video, and a gentleman stated that not all tools are made to work on all AR's. I'm interested in an Armor's tool that will work best on the M&P Sport. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
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ChattanoogaPhil · #2 12-25-2016, 09:50 AM

There's nothing special about the barrel nut and castle nut on the Sport which are the main purposes of a basic armorer's wrench. I purchased a Magpul but there are tons out there that are significantly cheaper and some more fancy. I like quality tools, but for those who are looking at a one-time use probably will look elsewhere to save a buck.

If you're not quite sure what all an armorer's wrench is about, here's a guy who speaks plainly.

Ya got a vice block, torque wrench and punches?

scooter123 · #3 12-25-2016, 10:58 AM

I suspect that a large part of the reason why you are coming up dry on your searches is your Spelling. Instead of an Armor's Tool you should really be searching for an Armorer's Tool, note the "er" it is sort of important.

I would also suggest you take a close look at the video Phil has provided a link to, because I've found that Magpul has a reputation for making absolutely excellent products that is very well earned and quite true.

gregintenn · #4 12-25-2016, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunkybayonet24

I did a search on this an couldn't find what I was looking for. So, I know there are several Armor's tools available through several on line services. I was watching a YouTube video, and a gentleman stated that not all tools are made to work on all AR's. I'm interested in an Armor's tool that will work best on the M&P Sport. Any suggestions?
Thanks,
BB

Some handguard manufacturers sell their wares with proprietary barrel nuts. The ones I've seen come with a wrench for that nut. I assume that's what he's talking about. Otherwise, mil spec parts are built to spec.
One of these wrenches is very handy if you even simply own an AR, and necessary if you work on one.

4barrel · #5 12-25-2016, 11:56 AM

I got to give Phil a double like for that video.

Bunkybayonet24 · #6 12-26-2016, 05:46 PM

Thank you all for the advice. Yes, spelling was wrong, smart phones auto correct.ugh. I'll check out the vedio suggested. I watched a few YouTube videos for removing the button stock and one gentleman noted that some tools for removing butt stocks dont always fit the M&P. Sadly, I live in California and I'm forced to modify to a fixed stock.
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Westie1 · #7 12-26-2016, 06:09 PM

You don't have to remove the buffer tube to replace the butt stock. Magpul makes a fixed carbine stock that is a direct replacement stock.

scooter123 · #8 12-26-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunkybayonet24

Thank you all for the advice. Yes, spelling was wrong, smart phones auto correct.ugh. I'll check out the vedio suggested. I watched a few YouTube videos for removing the button stock and one gentleman noted that some tools for removing butt stocks dont always fit the M&P. Sadly, I live in California and I'm forced to modify to a fixed stock.
BB

When I put together my first AR being an Old Fart I decided to do a bit of an Old School build. So, I used a 20 inch Shilen barrel and a Rifle Buffer tube with an A2 fixed stock. I can tell you that I don't miss a collapsible stock at all on this rifle and really don't see why so many think a flash hider is so critical because I don't miss not having that feature either. Fact is that it is a LOT easier to peak in the barrel to check for copper fouling with a plain recessed muzzle than it is if a flash hider is in place. BTW, that Shilen barrel is sub 3/10 MOA capable so copper fouling is a concern.

My subsequent builds are more "tactical" in that they feature 16 inch barrels with flash hiders and collapsible butt stocks. However I normally leave the stocks set to a length that matches the A2 stock on my precision rifle so all three have a similar trigger reach. So what I am telling you is that not having a collapsible butt stock is not much of a loss at all unless you have intentions to use your rifle for training a variety of folks with different trigger reach needs. As for some of the other requirements imposed by California, I'll simply state I am quite happy I live in Michigan.

TangoDelta1959 · #9 12-26-2016, 08:42 PM

I think I'm going to get the Magpul tool. Looks like it is pretty handy ...

Rastoff · #10 12-26-2016, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bunkybayonet24

Sadly, I live in California and I'm forced to modify to a fixed stock.
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There are lots of ways to fix the stock without removing the buffer tube.

ChattanoogaPhil · #11 12-27-2016, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bunkybayonet24

Thank you all for the advice. Yes, spelling was wrong, smart phones auto correct.ugh. I'll check out the vedio suggested. I watched a few YouTube videos for removing the button stock and one gentleman noted that some tools for removing butt stocks dont always fit the M&P. Sadly, I live in California and I'm forced to modify to a fixed stock.
BB

Hold up...

Living in California, a closed end like the Magpul will NOT work for the castle nut on a permanently fixed stock. That requires an open end because you can't first remove the stock to slip the wrench over the receiver extension tube. There's plenty of armorer's wrenches out there that have an open end 'spanner wrench' for the castle nut. Really, I think I'd chose a different armorer's wrench. Otherwise, you can purchase a separate spanner wrench for $10.

Disabled1 · #12 12-27-2016, 04:07 PM

Why does CA. have a law that an AR stock must be in a fixed position?

ChattanoogaPhil · #13 12-27-2016, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Disabled1

Why does CA. have a law that an AR stock must be in a fixed position?

That's a question for a different thread in a different section of the Forum... and typically gets shut down anyway because all it turns into is a bash fest.

As we were discussing.... armorer's wrenches....

Kadonny · #14 12-28-2016, 03:02 PM

I have a Tapco one made out of steel. Pretty good and solid and it has a bunch extra stuff on it too.....like a bottle opener.

Rastoff · #15 12-28-2016, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil

Hold up...

Living in California, a closed end like the Magpul will NOT work for the castle nut on a permanently fixed stock.

That word "permanently" is not quite correct here. The stock simply can't be collapsed or folded without the use of tools. So, installing the buffer tube and then the stock, like you would with a Magpul PRS for example, will allow the use of a closed tool.

Still, the open variety does have some advantages too.