New MP-15 Sport 2 Perfection

Scotiapilot · Jun 11, 2017

Ill add to the list of accolades and help the undecided.

I purchased my 15 Saturday morning and ran out to the the Ben Avery Shooting Facility and ran 300 rounds through it.

I purchased additional PMAG Gen3 with windows. All of it was perfect.
The 15-2 came with magpul foregrip 10305 model.

Not a single malfunction, not a single issue. All for 550.00 Un freaking real.

I remember buying a New Colt LE M4 and 20 years ago and back then it just seemed typical of new AR's that had to be broken-in cleaned and lubed, different mags bad ammo etc.
The only AR I purchased new that did run well was a BUSHY M4.

Whatever SW is doing these days they seem to be doing it right. All my SW weapons run perfectly out of the box. I just couldn't be happier.

agksimon · Jun 12, 2017

Scotiapilot said:
Whatever SW is doing these days they seem to be doing it right. All my SW weapons run perfectly out of the box. I just couldn't be happier.

I just got my Sport ll, optics ready model last week and it has also run perfect. Could not believe the nice trigger I got with it. 5lbs and breaks like glass. Made tight groups easy.

rtquig · Jun 12, 2017

Please tell me you cleaned it before using the first time.

Scotiapilot · Jun 12, 2017

rtquig said:
Please tell me you cleaned it before using the first time.

No, no reason to, pull it down inspect for lubrication and function check and fire.

Post firing yes.

cyphertext · Jun 12, 2017

Scotiapilot said:
No, no reason to, pull it down inspect for lubrication and function check and fire.

Post firing yes.

I disagree. Many firearms come with packing grease meant for storage, not proper lubrication.

Scotiapilot · Jun 12, 2017

cyphertext said:
I disagree. Many firearms come with packing grease meant for storage, not proper lubrication.

I get it. No where in any MP-15 Lit, does it say to clean prior to use. Open inspect be safe don't drink beer load and fire. Don't point at cat or dogs.

I can imagine many use to pack with grease, I know the AK and other imports used to pack with cosmoline but everything new and local is already set to fire pretty much.
Plus is you inspect prior to going to the range I think you will notice packing grease.

agksimon · Jun 12, 2017

cyphertext said:
I disagree. Many firearms come with packing grease meant for storage, not proper lubrication.

I usually always clean my guns before firing the first time, but my M&P Sport came with just a very light oil lubrication, so I left it the way it was and it ran fine.

Moe Mentum · Jun 12, 2017

They are test fired at the factory, and come already dirty. No need to clean it before shooting.

cyphertext · Jun 12, 2017

Moe Mentum said:
They are test fired at the factory, and come already dirty. No need to clean it before shooting.

They are test fired with one or two rounds... They do not come from the factory properly lubed. They typically have a rust preventative applied, not a lubricating oil.

You guys do whatever you want to do with your rifles... but the smart play is to break down, clean, inspect, lube, and function test before heading to the range.

Think about it... you just bought the least expensive AR in the M&P 15 line up. Do you think they spend the time properly lubricating the rifle for use with a quality lube? Nope, they don't... dip the parts in a rust preventative, box it, and send it out the door!

Bat Guano · Jun 12, 2017

Just recently bought one of the Sport models for my daughter for $350. I didn't know it was the new version until I got it home and opened the box.

I have been shooting one of the original models for some years now as an understudy to the 5.56 version, and have over 5K rounds through it. To say that I like it is a gross understatement. However, it has the clunky 4 rail fore-end. With rail covers it isn't too bad to use.

The new fore-end is a dream--much smaller in diameter and also looks MUCH better. I like it enough to have checked out the difficulty of converting my old rifle to that configuration. S&W will sell the part for about $40, but then I have to buy the tools, etc. I probably won't bother, but what an improvement!

Everybody should own one...

cyphertext · Jun 13, 2017

Bat Guano said:
Just recently bought one of the Sport models for my daughter for $350. I didn't know it was the new version until I got it home and opened the box.

I have been shooting one of the original models for some years now as an understudy to the 5.56 version, and have over 5K rounds through it. To say that I like it is a gross understatement. However, it has the clunky 4 rail fore-end. With rail covers it isn't too bad to use.

The new fore-end is a dream--much smaller in diameter and also looks MUCH better. I like it enough to have checked out the difficulty of converting my old rifle to that configuration. S&W will sell the part for about $40, but then I have to buy the tools, etc. I probably won't bother, but what an improvement!

Everybody should own one...

I think you are talking about a different rifle. We are discussing the M&P 15 Sport II... the 5.56mm centerfire rifle. It sounds like you are referring to the M&P 15-22 Sport, the .22lr rifle.

C J · Jun 13, 2017

While most modern firearms come with a type of lube that will work I always try to keep in mind that mistakes are made at the factories sometimes. I've seen cars come with transmission fluid in differentials which is of course a big problem. Those problems generally happened when Detroit was falling on it's face in the lat 70's and early 80's when workers just didn't care about quality. But I think about new lines of production and the new workers on those lines and I want to know if my gun is properly lubed before I start shooting it. Who knows what might have happened. It's just part of the inspection IMO. It isn't that hard to clean and lube with proper types of lube IMO. And I certainly want to know if there is an obvious problem with a gun before firing it. They are designed to hurt things and they can blow up in your face if you get one made badly. I want to know these things ahead of time.

Kadonny · Jun 13, 2017

I always felt the packing grease thing was overblown. My Sport 1 came with little to none and could have easily fired a few hundred rounds just as it came out of the box. My Colt had a decent amount more on it, but still not enough that I thought it would have caused a problem if I had fired it that way and just recently I bought a NIB KAC SR15 that had some slight packing grease on the BCG exterior and that was it.

So, is it a good idea to open up a new rifle, inspect it, clean off the packing grease (if any) and re-lube before firing? Absolutely. Is it a
"must"? Nope.

bblhd672 · Jun 13, 2017

cyphertext said:
They are test fired with one or two rounds... They do not come from the factory properly lubed. They typically have a rust preventative applied, not a lubricating oil.

You guys do whatever you want to do with your rifles... but the smart play is to break down, clean, inspect, lube, and function test before heading to the range.

Think about it... you just bought the least expensive AR in the M&P 15 line up. Do you think they spend the time properly lubricating the rifle for use with a quality lube? Nope, they don't... dip the parts in a rust preventative, box it, and send it out the door!

I agree. Personally, I trust myself more than the assembly line guy to ensure a new firearm barrel does not have any kind of obstruction in it prior to firing the first time.

I break down, clean, lube and put them back together. Every gun I've bought I have kept to this habit, regardless of how bad I wanted to load it up and shoot as soon as I have it in my hands.

Bare minimum I'd recommend is pulling a bore snake through the barrel prior to shooting.

As far as my Sport II, it was my first AR rifle, so I not only cleaned it first, but stripped it down and reassembled it so I understood where the parts were and how they fit together. A great leaning experience.

MichiganScott · Jun 13, 2017

Scotiapilot said:
Not a single malfunction, not a single issue. All for 550.00 Un freaking real.

I remember buying a New Colt LE M4 and 20 years ago and back then it just seemed typical of new AR's that had to be broken-in cleaned and lubed, different mags bad ammo etc.
The only AR I purchased new that did run well was a BUSHY M4.

I've never had an AR that didn't run well when purchased. I currently own more than I need, but I have a wife, kids, and grandkids that like to shoot. Of course I've always detail cleaned and lubed them when purchased before they first hit the range.

These are simple machines that run with a minimum of attention. As machines, they may come from the manufacturer with dirt or metal flakes where they don't belong. That thick, sticky preservative they come shipped with is not lubrication.

rtquig · Jun 13, 2017

I think it is better to break them down and clean them before shooting. I'm not saying you have to take the BCG completely apart down to the extractor, but clean and lube them and take a good look at what you have before you so you can tell after a range trip if it something is amiss or was that way before you shot it.

Disabled1 · Jun 14, 2017

Kadonny said:
I always felt the packing grease thing was overblown. My Sport 1 came with little to none and could have easily fired a few hundred rounds just as it came out of the box. My Colt had a decent amount more on it, but still not enough that I thought it would have caused a problem if I had fired it that way and just recently I bought a NIB KAC SR15 that had some slight packing grease on the BCG exterior and that was it.

So, is it a good idea to open up a new rifle, inspect it, clean off the packing grease (if any) and re-lube before firing? Absolutely. Is it a
"must"? Nope.

My Sport I was the same way. It looked as if it just had a light coat of 3 IN 1 oil on it. Now, my Ruger AR-556, I have no clue what was on that rifle. I think it was some ALIEN (The scary monstuh) saliva on it.

I always clean ALL of my firearms before I fire any rounds through them. I did own a Glock G17.4. Glock puts some kind of copper lube/anti-seize on the rails and they recommend to NOT clean it from the handgun. But, I did anyway.
BTW, I sold that 2X4, I mean that Glock.

scott_0 · Jun 14, 2017

rtquig said:
Please tell me you cleaned it before using the first time.

my goodness, he said he had no issues right out of the box, we all have differing opinions and habits, move on man!

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Scotiapilot · Jun 15, 2017

Fathers day gift was just installed on her today. Aimpoint PRO, cant wait to go get it sighted in.

rtquig · Jun 15, 2017

scott_0 said:
my goodness, he said he had no issues right out of the box, we all have differing opinions and habits, move on man!

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It wouldn't be the first time someone posted and had a good day shooting and the next time they went out had problems. I asked a reasonable question. No issues out of the box, did he clean it first or just inspect it? I think most people that have been around firearms most of their lives would clean a new firearm straight from the factory.

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