Smith & Wesson Forum

Advertise With Us Search
Go Back   Smith & Wesson Forum > Smith & Wesson Rifles and Shotguns > Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles

Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles Dedicated to the Smith & Wesson M&P-15 Rifles


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-28-2021, 12:46 PM
Rastoff's Avatar
Rastoff Rastoff is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: So Cal (Near Edwards AFB)
Posts: 14,710
Likes: 2,926
Liked 17,102 Times in 6,271 Posts
Default Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???

What optic are you using and why? I'm in the market for a new one and thought I'd ask to see what y'all are running.
__________________
Freedom isn't free.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-28-2021, 01:26 PM
Ranger17's Avatar
Ranger17 Ranger17 is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Back in WI
Posts: 2,034
Likes: 624
Liked 1,845 Times in 837 Posts
Default

Taking my feedback for what it’s worth as one new to the AR platform; I recently picked up a Holosun 510C-Gr for my Sport 2.
My vision and glasses give me fits using a standard scope, and the red dot I have wasnt much better. In talking with my eye Dr (he understands my issues and is a hunter) we felt a reflex may work well. For what I wanted out of my Sport 2 anyway which for now is range and sporting use.
In searching reviews, vids etc on different sights, this one seemed to keep coming up as being rated high, offering lots of features for the cost, and overall at a price I was willing to pay.
So far just a few mags worth of using it but at 50 yds it has worked quite nicely for me. So in limited use it gets 2 thumbs up.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-28-2021, 01:32 PM
Rodan's Avatar
Rodan Rodan is offline
SWCA Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: May 2020
Location: Southern AZ
Posts: 1,662
Likes: 3,984
Liked 6,877 Times in 1,312 Posts
Default

The optic depends on the mission... CQB/general purpose under 200yds: red dot or red dot/magnifier. LPVO adds versatility out to 200-300 yards, with a slight sacrifice in speed up close. Varmints: higher power magnafied optics for smaller targets.
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
  #4  
Old 06-29-2021, 12:20 AM
Rastoff's Avatar
Rastoff Rastoff is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: So Cal (Near Edwards AFB)
Posts: 14,710
Likes: 2,926
Liked 17,102 Times in 6,271 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodan View Post
The optic depends on the mission...
Of course it does so, what's your mission and what are you using? I'm not asking for you to try to pick something for me, I'm just curious about what people are using and why.
__________________
Freedom isn't free.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-29-2021, 02:07 AM
Goblin Goblin is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: May 2014
Location: North Texas
Posts: 1,596
Likes: 2,455
Liked 1,149 Times in 608 Posts
Default

I have irons, red dot and scopes on different ARs for different purposes. Just note that if you have astigmatism, a red dot may not appear as a round dot, but a hash mark (or worse), and depending on how bad it is, may limit your precision. Test before you buy.

In a scope, I prefer the traditional duplex reticle, which is designed to draw your eye to the center. With a 300 yard zero, you’re within about 2” above or below line of sight, which is precise enough for me. BDC reticles are just distracting to me.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-29-2021, 08:01 AM
rockquarry rockquarry is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 7,667
Likes: 4
Liked 9,030 Times in 4,183 Posts
Default

Along with a plain front sight and an aperture rear sight, a good quality scope with a simple and uncluttered reticle is hard to beat for just about any purpose. Simple, it works, and no batteries are needed. Granted, such a setup lacks the newness of gadgetry that some perceive as "upgrades". These "upgrades" may actually offer less in the way of usefulness.

Just something to consider, and scope magnification is up the the user. High magnification, like a light trigger, is really of benefit only to the expert that can use it effectively. It's not a shortcut that takes the place of skill.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-29-2021, 08:37 AM
bamashooter bamashooter is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Alabama
Posts: 724
Likes: 476
Liked 388 Times in 262 Posts
Default

I use hard sights, red dots to include a couple of reflex-types, prism scopes, LPV scope.

Because.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-29-2021, 06:50 PM
Oldsalt66 Oldsalt66 is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 552
Likes: 791
Liked 890 Times in 329 Posts
Default

I use red dots, Eotech laser diffraction sights, and 1-4x low powered variable optics on my ARs and AKs.

Folks with astigmatism might need to use prism sights, which have engraved reticles, in lieu of dots or Eotechs due to possible optical blooming.

My own astigmatism still allows me the use of them when wearing glasses.

Everything depends on your intended use for the rifle, but IMO, a good quality true 1-4x, 1-6x, or 1-8x low powered variable optic with a true daylight bright center dot offers the most versatility.

For “fastest” target acquisition at close range I’d recommend an Eotech.

For “fast” acquisition at close range with extraordinary battery life I believe it’s offered by the red dot.

For “reasonably fast” acquisition and the most versatility, I believe a true 1-xx LPVO with true daylight bright center dot illumination offers the best solution by extending the range at which you can accurately identify and shoot at your intended target.

For red dots I run SIG Romeo 5s and they’ve been great, but I won’t buy anymore Chinese optics ever.

For low power variable optics I run a couple of Steiner P4xi and they’re outstanding.

Last edited by Oldsalt66; 06-29-2021 at 07:37 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-15-2021, 12:39 PM
Bumpus13's Avatar
Bumpus13 Bumpus13 is offline
Member
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: West Virginia
Posts: 852
Likes: 3,249
Liked 2,118 Times in 547 Posts
Default

I just used plain old irons for years.

Last year, I went to a Vortex Strikefire II red dot. I’m pretty happy with it.


(mounted / POV … don’t mind the dog biscuit crumbs on the carpet)
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 367D4CAF-7425-4BBA-A20D-E8D3239B3E2D.jpg (31.6 KB, 21 views)
File Type: jpg EDE1A3A2-E750-4487-AD43-C9A9C7BEE70F.jpg (85.5 KB, 18 views)
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-15-2021, 01:33 PM
CQB27's Avatar
CQB27 CQB27 is offline
US Veteran
Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or??? Optic: LPVO, fixed magnification, red dot, or???  
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Lavender Mtn, Georgia
Posts: 1,328
Likes: 4,644
Liked 4,059 Times in 680 Posts
Default

Ran with this for awhile, Trijicon Accupower 1-6x24, Red BDC Segmented Circle. Tough as nails, not really a 1 power on lowest setting, more like 1.25, but worked well at CQB ranges and great at longer ranges. Fast and accurate shots from 5 feet to 300 yards are a breeze. Mated with a good mount it gets a little heavy though.





Run this now, Trijicon ACOG TA31-CH, Red Crosshair Reticle with DO RDS. Best of both worlds, true 1 power RDS and a 4x32 for the range stuff. Bomb proof reliability. After the nuclear apocalypse there will be only roaches and ACOGs left.






Around the homestead/property it's this, Colt M4 with a A1 upper. Simple, light weight, cheaper, works good, lasts a long time.



I did ditch the A1 rear sight for an A2, gives me that 0-2 open sight for close in work. No need for anything beyond 200 meters around the homestead.

Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-16-2021, 10:18 AM
WR Moore WR Moore is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 6,734
Likes: 1,879
Liked 5,507 Times in 2,777 Posts
Default

I've been a red dot user since the early 1980's. However, at the time of purchase of the latest example, I seriously considered a LPVO in the 1-4/1-6 range. An option of a selective "Fire Dot" (red dot) was interesting but I passed. Ten years later, I'm kinda regretting that.

One of the current issues is availability of a quality simple optic, capped adjustment dials, duplex reticle and available in a scout scope version sized as to not overwhelm the rifle. It'd also be really neat if the price wasn't a budget buster.

Apparently the market is currently aimed at the wants of HSLD wanna be types with disposable incomes, rather than legitimate needs. Maybe a Leupold variable power pistol scope and have the custom shop reset the parallax?
Reply With Quote
The Following User Likes This Post:
Reply


Posting Rules
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
How much Magnification on a 22-250 sw282 Firearms & Knives: Other Brands & General Gun Topics 19 07-02-2018 07:16 AM
Optic with magnification Miles2014 Smith & Wesson M&P15 Rifles 9 09-10-2017 06:08 PM
Smith 460 mag red dot or fixed magnification? Scooter88 S&W Revolvers: 1980 to the Present 2 04-02-2016 11:06 PM
Low magnification optics on 15-22 CajunMouseSniper Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 8 12-12-2010 04:43 PM
Low magnification scopes ~tc~ Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22 10 03-23-2010 10:17 PM

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.3
smith-wessonforum.com tested by Norton Internet Security smith-wessonforum.com tested by McAfee Internet Security

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:41 AM.


Smith-WessonForum.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson Holding Corporation (NASDAQ Global Select: SWHC)