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Old 08-24-2010, 08:45 AM
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This is just a fun story; not making fun of anyone, just wanted to share the story.

A local gas station attendant looked at my GOT AMMO t shirt, and asked me if I knew about guns. I said; I know some, can I help.

He said "I just bought a new S&W 9mm, my first gun". I responded "Congrats, which gun did you buy"? He said he didn't know, except that knew it was a S&W 9mm. I asked what it looked like, he said black with a silver top. I said I think you bought a sigma, he said no it's a 9mm. Where did you get it, I asked. It was on special at Academy for $300. I said I'm quite certain you bought a sigma 9mm. He said his brother-in-law told him to get it because it was a good deal.

He told me that he shot one box of ammo so far and the gun shoots way low.

I told him I would return early one morning when he was on duty to talk with him about his new gun and gun safety. I have a plan to steer him in the right direction for some professional training. Hopefully I can help!

I'll follow up if necessary,

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edit: I did tell him to read the manual from cover to cover twice before he does anything else.
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Way to go Lee!! Spread the knowledge! Keep up the good work sir!!
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My .40 sigma is shooting low too. I heard that this is frequently caused by flinching (anticipating and pushing the barrel down right before the break). I went back to a short video my daughter had taken of me shooting it and, sure enough, you couldn't see anything until the end. The slide locked back, but I guess I didn't notice and squeezed one last time. Right then you could clearly see me push the barrel down a tiny bit just as the trigger came back. I've been working a lot on dry firing to correct this and can't wait to try it at the range. This is my first gun and I'm trying to get used to it; I've only previously used my AF M-9 a few times, so the .40 is a big shift in kick. So far, my sigma has 125 rounds thru it and it's been fine.
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Welcome to the forum bitstream!! You have come to the right place to advance your shooting & gun knowledge! You have a great handgun as well! I have the 9mm Sigma & love it! I got mine in May. I have around 750 rds through it with ZERO malfunctions!! It seems like it gets better each time I feed it! As long as you strive to be a better shot & search for a soultion for the smallest of problems, that pattern will get smaller & smaller! Good luck on the next range trip! Keep us posted!
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Thanks JJ!

bitstream, welcome to the forum! You'll get use to the sigma with practice.

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Thanks for the welcoming! I'm doing at least a few minutes of dry firing every night to get my muscle memory on the trigger worked in. I now notice that the barrel doesn't move when the trigger breaks. I'm also thinking of polishing up the cam a bit to improve the action. I don't want to get any more agressive than just smoothing and polishing the parts. I already polished the feed ramp; it's as smooth as glass now with no tool marks left. I manually ran an entire mag thru by racking the slide and they all fed/extracted smoothly. Can anyone confirm that the tip posted on this forum of putting a 1:1 mixture of Gun Slick graphite lube and valve grinding compound on the sear cam, pulling the trigger about 100 times, and then cleaning it all off with non-chlorinated brake cleaner will be safe and if it works?
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I cannot confirm that.

The only thing that I did to mine, was shoot it. That's all I've recommended to anyone. I personally don't have any desire to make an attempt at hot-rodding a sigma. It is what it is; the most under rated gun in the solar system!

It's never been my favorite gun, but it runs like a Singer sewing machine on steroids.

Smooth as a babys behind!


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Thanks. I also do not want to make a foolish attempt at hot rodding it and then make it unsafe/unreliable. I don't, however, mind a bit of polishing only. As long as I leave all the parts in original condition and configuration, I figure it's probably safe. I was super careful when polishing the feed ramp to go very light and only polish. I was thinking that smoothing up the sear cam should be safe too. I do not have any plans on replacing/removing springs; that sounds like a bad idea.
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Right on!

Just shoot that thing and have some fun!

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Great job Lee! We need all the new safe shooters we can get.
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Welcome bitstream! I think all pistol shooters have shot low at one point. That flinch thing is hard to get rid of.
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Great job Lee! We need all the new safe shooters we can get.
Thank you my friend!

I see your sigma retired a few more "high dollar" boys at the last match!

Great job to you!

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Welcome bitstream! I think all pistol shooters have shot low at one point. That flinch thing is hard to get rid of.
Thanks, I just got my sigma at a gun show on 31 July. I was looking for a Glock, but then my wife noticed a vendor with Sigmas for $259 (after $50 rebate). I was skeptical until I got to the table and seen the Smith and Wesson name on it. I figured it couldn't be bad if they put their name on it. I picked it up and talked with the guy. It really is nearly identical to the Glock for about half the price. I figured that sounded good for a first pistol. Instead of the rebate, I ordered the 2 mags (better deal @ $37/each). Can't wait to get them. Before I left the gun show, I wandered by a holster booth and they were really great to find me a IWB that fits absolutely perfectly. I've already got my license and carry it concealed nearly every day now. It rides great at 3:30 and doesn't print at all. So far, I'm very happy with it.

I do need to get another gun to teach my family how to shoot; I was thinking a 9mm for the reduced recoil. I also need to get a lighter trigger for them. My wife likes a full sized grip (she tested a lot at the gun show and does not like compacts) Any suggestions? How is the SD9's trigger? I've read some good things about Springfield XDm?
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I here the SD's have triggers like the glocks. XD's are great guns as well.

If you want a great gun with a good trigger, check out the ruger SR9.
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Just FYI on the holsters. I talked with a vender who claimed to have some legal issues with a major manufacture of IWB holsters that I said his kind of looked like. It was a real nice broad IWB with adjustable ride hight & cant. Anyway, to the point already! He didn't have one for the Sigma. Since Glock sued S&W over the Sigma design & the G17 is very similar in size I asked if we could try it. It fit very well! It had the same retention as the G17! So If you can't find a holster that says Sigma on it. Try one for the G17.
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