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Foghorn: I think I used the same 'online source' to upgrade my SW9VE trigger with similar results. Before I had a quite gritty 12 pound trigger. Afterwards the trigger is much smoother and around 7.75 lbs measured with a gauge. Very happy with the results.
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I own a SD40VE not a 9mm but the trigger is the same. The trigger was not a smooth shooter much rougher than any of my revolvers. I have Apex triggers in many of my revolvers. Why reinvent the wheel? I installed an Apex trigger and noted a lot of improvement. I've never been afraid of improving the trigger. "Judge & jury, I wanted to make sure I did not hit the wrong person."
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10-20-2020, 01:21 AM
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I own a SD40VE not a 9mm but the trigger is the same. The trigger was not a smooth shooter much rougher than any of my revolvers. I have Apex triggers in many of my revolvers. Why reinvent the wheel? I installed an Apex trigger and noted a lot of improvement. I've never been afraid of improving the trigger. "Judge & jury, I wanted to make sure I did not hit the wrong person."
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Ok, so I gather you are running the Apex replacements. My .40 is the SW40VE (before the SD & M&P series, and after the original Sigmas). So I need to find something to fit it, if available. At one time Apex did offer something that had to be fitted to the particular SWVE frames whether the .40 or 9mm. I'll email Apex to see if they still have it, if it will mitigate some of this football-field pull length. Thanks!
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Ok, so I gather you are running the Apex replacements. My .40 is the SW40VE (before the SD & M&P series, and after the original Sigmas). So I need to find something to fit it, if available. At one time Apex did offer something that had to be fitted to the particular SWVE frames whether the .40 or 9mm. I'll email Apex to see if they still have it, if it will mitigate some of this football-field pull length. Thanks!
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I own an SD9 with the Galloway Boudica trigger and Wesbaun spring kit. I originally had an APEX spring kit in it but found the Wesbaun spring kit to be 10X better.
Here are links to the Boudica trigger and Wesbaun spring kit for your SW40VE;
Boudica Short Stroke Trigger for Smith & Wesson SD VE and Sigma VE Pistols > Galloway Precision
Sigma Series Trigger Spring Kit for
Smith & Wesson SW9VE SW40VE C F VE 107-021 - Wesbaun Gun Springs
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10-20-2020, 01:01 PM
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I'ma guess he's either got it fixed or he hasn't. Been nine years . . .
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I'ma guess he's either got it fixed or he hasn't. Been nine years . . .
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Yeah, its a zombie, thread, but since people resurrected it apparently there are others with interest - even if the OP has solved his problem.
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I'ma guess he's either got it fixed or he hasn't. Been nine years . . .
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my original query was only posted yesterday on this vintage thread, so you can blame me for waking the zombie thread. hehe
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10-20-2020, 07:33 PM
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Thank you, Ruger Nut. This is FABULOUS stuff!!!
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I didn't even look at the date it was posted.
Ah well, the information I posted still stands.
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I didn't even look at the date it was posted.
Ah well, the information I posted still stands.
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Take heart! My post was only a few days ago on ye olde thread here. SO glad for the response. And thank you for your service to our country!
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10-23-2020, 06:59 PM
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I ordered the Boudica trigger today. Had the browser tab cued and they increased the price by .50 cents overnight before I placed the order. Oh well. Still a great deal.
Did your trigger spring kit from Wesbaun come with that little tapered coil stuffed with foam or was it empty? According to what sigmatrigger was saying, that little foam insert is real important for that spring's longevity. I'm about to order that trigger spring kit as well, as I already have the outer sear spring replacement installed. Thanks!
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Update! Phase 2: trigger & spring kit installed
Well....the parts arrived and so we got the show on the road.
Contenders installed in phase 2 of the upgrade: Trigger spring kit from Wesbaun as suggested, and the Boudica trigger from Galloway Precision.
This may sound shallow/superficial, but the Boudica trigger looks the business more than the DA revolver-style shaped OEM unit; it slightly redeems the SW40VE from ugly status; and at first after the install & reassembly in checking functionality I was rather ambivalent with the initial results perceived. Yes it mitigated the over-travel and lessened pre-travel....but...well....was hoping for more. Seemed to get a bit better after 10 cycles. So I slept on it, and then performed some repetitive cycling over the next few days. Somewhere around the 30th cycling things started getting interesting.
I'm happy to report that since a number of cycles with the upgraded pieces (oh I'd say 40 or so) using snap caps; it has improved tremendously. I've no scale so I'm guessing it's in the 5-6+ pound range. IMO it's likely perfect for its intended use as a nightstand/property/truck implement.
There is zero compromise in safety, IMO from the OEM trigger. The welcome decrease in pre-travel is not only noticeable, but the pull is pretty smooth..... now the trigger firms up just a bit after the initial say 1-2 mm of pull and pulls smooth all the way through the break, and stops just afterwards with NO over-travel. Reset is gently tactile with a slightly perceived audible 'tick'. The trigger will likely improve a bit more with more use.
The SW40VE is my first striker-fired sidearm, and perhaps not my last. Admittedly a luddite, I'm somewhat warming up to what's possible with these.
Thank you for the collective advice here, as I believe this has made the most out of this sidearm. No it will never have say, a SA XD-M Elite (or better) trigger, but I'm a happy camper for what I have invested in this little project. Now I need to get out and shoot this thing and put the snap caps away.
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ADDENDUM & update: I forgot to note that the bottom of the Boudica trigger was chafing on the inside of the trigger guard initially...not so much to bind, but enough that I wasn't chancing any problems as I didn't want any contact in the sweep of the pull as it was. Some sandpaper applied properly to the bottom edge of the Boudica trigger (just enough to see a decent amt of daylight that cold-hot weather won't have any contact between the two surfaces), and it's fine...and yes it keeps improving.
BTW, Thanks, Ruger Nut! you helped me make the choices I did to see this through.
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