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Has S&W fixed the ****** strikers in the Sigma?
Was wondering if they had fixed the striker issue?
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When was the last time you fired one??
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After I bought mine and took it out to shoot for the 1st time and it broke.
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I guess the answer is no. Does anyone know of an aftermarket striker that can be purchased?
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you realise that you can get ahold of smith and wesson and they would fix that for free
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Yes I do, but will it last or break again. There have been other instances of the strikers breaking on these pistols. I'm just wondering if S&W has addressed this issue. These pistols have potential to be very reliable and high value pistol, but not with weak strikers.
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Odd, I have never broke a striker on either of my Sigmas with over 5,000 rounds between them. Don't hear a lot of broken striker stories around here either.
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well personally i would send it in i have had my sigma for over a year now and put approx 1000 rounds down range with it without issue so my guess is you just got unlucky and got a bad striker somehow
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Didn't know anything was wrong with them.Been shooting them for years,(accurately also).
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well personally i would send it in i have had my sigma for over a year now and put approx 1000 rounds down range with it without issue so my guess is you just got unlucky and got a bad striker somehow
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Didn't know anything was wrong with them.Been shooting them for years,(accurately also).
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Maybe they have fixed the issue then. I have had mine for about 2 years and it broke the first time I took it out on less then 500 rounds. Check out the picture, see anything wrong with the striker?
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There is no striker issue with the sigmas. You may have just got a bad one. I will say that I have seen some broken striker stories lately and they were all from improperly field stripping the guns. If you pull the slide back too far when you are attempting to strip the gun and you cock it and then pull the trigger, which propels the slide forward by the force of the striker spring and the striker, this can break the striker. Even one of the trigger mod videos on you tube shows the gun being field stripped this way, which might make you think it is ok, but it is NOT ok and should be avoided.
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There is no striker issue with the sigmas. You may have just got a bad one. I will say that I have seen some broken striker stories lately and they were all from improperly field stripping the guns. If you pull the slide back too far when you are attempting to strip the gun and you cock it and then pull the trigger, which propels the slide forward by the force of the striker spring and the striker, this can break the striker. Even one of the trigger mod videos on you tube shows the gun being field stripped this way, which might make you think it is ok, but it is NOT ok and should be avoided.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this.
1. you don't have to pull the trigger to field strip the sigma. Like the Glock, you must dry fire to decock the weapon, rack the slide back an 1/8 of an inch and then, pull the slide latches down, and then remove the slide.
2. This gun is very much like a Glock, you must dry fire the weapon to decock. It should not hurt it at all.
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I'm going to have to disagree with you on this.
1. you don't have to pull the trigger to field strip the sigma. Like the Glock, you must dry fire to decock the weapon, rack the slide back an 1/8 of an inch and then, pull the slide latches down, and then remove the slide.
2. This gun is very much like a Glock, you must dry fire the weapon to decock. It should not hurt it at all.
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Ummmmm.... How do you dry fire the weapon if you don't pull the trigger?! Just sayin!!
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Ummmmm.... How do you dry fire the weapon if you don't pull the trigger?! Just sayin!!
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After you get done shooting and the slide locks open. I always drop the slide and then decock (dry fire) the weapon. When I get home to field strip for cleaning I don't have to cock the weapon to field strip. Saying that improper field stripping is breaking the striker is ridiculous.
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Not sure what you are disagreeing with, because we are saying the same thing in different words. You must dry fire to decock, I agree, but then when you are racking the slide back an 1/8 in and pulling the slide latches down, if you happen to go a little too far and the gun cocks and then you pull the trigger again, it will actually propel the slide forward from the spring tension on the striker, which can break it. I could have worded it better, but this is what I meant.
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Not sure what you are disagreeing with, because we are saying the same thing in different words. You must dry fire to decock, I agree, but then when you are racking the slide back an 1/8 in and pulling the slide latches down, if you happen to go a little too far and the gun cocks and then you pull the trigger again, it will actually propel the slide forward from the spring tension on the striker, which can break it. I could have worded it better, but this is what I meant.
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A striker or firing pin on any gun takes a beating, it should be able to take some what of a beating. I know what you are talking about cocking the gun again, that should not hurt it at all.
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Here is a more detailed view of the damage to the striker the tip is broken and the whole striker is broken in half.
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S&W says different, and I don't do it as I believe S&W, and I have read about this happening 3 or 4 times recently.
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S&W says different, and I don't do it as I believe S&W, and I have read about this happening 3 or 4 times recently.
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S&W said not to pull the trigger and let the slide fly off or the striker will break. Is that in the manual? Or did someone from S&W tell you that?
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WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
You mean the Sigma that I've had for 4+ years, fired thousands of rounds, dry fired hundreds of times, field striped a hundred times, cleaned 20 times, fired cheap ammo in, removed parts from, and is half the price of a glock has a faulty striker! Did you hear me? I said!
You know what? I bet S&W knows all about it too. You know what? I bet S&W isn't going to do anything about it. You know what? I think S&W is trying to stick to us. You know what? I think we should find the nearest trash can and throw our Sigmas away, and go buy glocks. That will teach S&W not to put faulty strikers, and cheap ****** triggers in their guns.
I'm going to get the pitch forks, and torches. Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock! Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock!
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WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
You mean the Sigma that I've had for 4+ years, fired thousands of rounds, dry fired hundreds of times, field striped a hundred times, cleaned 20 times, fired cheap ammo in, removed parts from, and is half the price of a glock has a faulty striker! Did you hear me? I said!
You know what? I bet S&W knows all about it too. You know what? I bet S&W isn't going to do anything about it. You know what? I think S&W is trying to stick to us. You know what? I think we should find the nearest trash can and throw our Sigmas away, and go buy glocks. That will teach S&W not to put faulty strikers, and cheap ****** triggers in their guns.
I'm going to get the pitch forks, and torches. Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock! Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock!
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Wow! Way to overreact dude. Try not to be so myopic. There are tons of good guns out there. This has just been my experience with my Sigma. I own a Glock and have had good service out of it, if you don't like them, I'm ok with that as well. I happen not to like 1911 style pistols, but I think they are excellent pistols. Chill out and enjoy your ultra reliable Sigma!
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Well I'm not the one busting in here bashing the Sigma on my first post. Sounds to me you were just unfortunate and got a bad striker. That doesn't mean you can come in here and throw your opinion around as fact and think your not going to get some flak.
The fact is S&W doesn't have a problem with ****** strikers in the Sigma. Fact is parts break. There are plenty of members here with thousands and thousands of rounds through the sigma with out failure.
Sorry the sigma let you down when you set out to fire off 500 rounds your first time out. You could have come in here and said. Hey I had a problem with a Sigma I owned. Has anyone else had this happen? You know something like that.
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What striker issue?
I have had my oldest SIGMA since 1994. I have no idea how many tens of thousands of rounds have been through this and my other SIGMAS over the last Decade and a half.
I currently own 6 SIGMAS though in truth two are unfired so I have only been shooting 4 of them
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Well I'm not the one busting in here bashing the Sigma on my first post. Sounds to me you were just unfortunate and got a bad striker. That doesn't mean you can come in here and throw your opinion around as fact and think your not going to get some flak.
The fact is S&W doesn't have a problem with ****** strikers in the Sigma. Fact is parts break. There are plenty of members here with thousands and thousands of rounds through the sigma with out failure.
Sorry the sigma let you down when you set out to fire off 500 rounds your first time out. You could have come in here and said. Hey I had a problem with a Sigma I owned. Has anyone else had this happen? You know something like that.
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That's what I did share my bad experience about a gun I bought. But hey, I thought forums were for expressing opinions, MY BAD. Sorry I hurt your feelings.
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What striker issue?
I have had my oldest SIGMA since 1994. I have no idea how many tens of thousands of rounds have been through this and my other SIGMAS over the last Decade and a half.
I currently own 6 SIGMAS though in truth two are unfired so I have only been shooting 4 of them
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Did you see the pics. I realize this may?? be isolated, but I wouldn't depend on this pistol in a life or death situation. Just my mileage, your mileage may vary.
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WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
You mean the Sigma that I've had for 4+ years, fired thousands of rounds, dry fired hundreds of times, field striped a hundred times, cleaned 20 times, fired cheap ammo in, removed parts from, and is half the price of a glock has a faulty striker! Did you hear me? I said!
You know what? I bet S&W knows all about it too. You know what? I bet S&W isn't going to do anything about it. You know what? I think S&W is trying to stick to us. You know what? I think we should find the nearest trash can and throw our Sigmas away, and go buy glocks. That will teach S&W not to put faulty strikers, and cheap ****** triggers in their guns.
I'm going to get the pitch forks, and torches. Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock! Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock!
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I dont care who you are thats funny right there
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Well, my new Sigma stopped firing afer a couple hundred rounds. I bought it new last summer. It was a striker issue.
But there was a definable problem with a definable solution: They forgot to install a striker bushing at the factory. After that, only about 2 light strikes in 700 rounds. I was also getting a few light strikes in my Ruger, too. SO I attributed the rarre light strikes to ammo (eastern European), Changed to federal and remington and I haven't had any problems at all in any gun. So I guess I'm keeping it.
Love the way the Sigma shoots and performs now, but I DO wish I wasn't limited to ammo brands.
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WAIT A MINUTE!!!!
You mean the Sigma that I've had for 4+ years, fired thousands of rounds, dry fired hundreds of times, field striped a hundred times, cleaned 20 times, fired cheap ammo in, removed parts from, and is half the price of a glock has a faulty striker! Did you hear me? I said!
You know what? I bet S&W knows all about it too. You know what? I bet S&W isn't going to do anything about it. You know what? I think S&W is trying to stick to us. You know what? I think we should find the nearest trash can and throw our Sigmas away, and go buy glocks. That will teach S&W not to put faulty strikers, and cheap ****** triggers in their guns.
I'm going to get the pitch forks, and torches. Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock! Down with S&W! HOORAY for glock!
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I was with you until you said Hooray for Glock. That's going too far. lol.
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What's a Glock? Never mind, I don't want one anyway.
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The problem is that you can't just show up and be an obnoxious,know it all gun experts. You have to get a few post in then you can be just like the other obnoxious,know it all experts.
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The problem is that you can't just show up and be an obnoxious,know it all gun experts. You have to get a few post in then you can be just like the other obnoxious,know it all experts.
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I'll try to up my post count before I complain about another S&W product on this forum. LOL
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I've been active on this forum just a little over two years and have seen this cycle of new guys, old guys, old problems,bickering etc. about every six months. This too will pass. I believe that certain traits are not acceptable on the 1st post or the 1000th post and the Sigma section seems to be one of the worst on this site.
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I've been active on this forum just a little over two years and have seen this cycle of new guys, old guys, old problems,bickering etc. about every six months. This too will pass. I believe that certain traits are not acceptable on the 1st post or the 1000th post and the Sigma section seems to be one of the worst on this site.
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I will get this gun fixed, and give it another fair test. As I live in TX, word is we have one of the best S&W technicians, Frank Smith. I have talked to him before and find him to be very knowledgeable. I am going to pick his brain about this gun and see if he can answer some of the things that have been posted in this thread. The post about improper field stripping causing the striker to break is just ridiculous to me. I mean the field strip of this gun is very straight forward and easy. Unless you are beating the slide off with a hammer, the breaking of the striker does not seem possible. My owners manual does not give any warning of this at all. Also, I know there is a question about dry firing the Sigma, you have to dry fire it to decock per the manual. If you can't dry fire the Sigma without doing damage to the striker, that is a complete fail IMO.
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I'm sorry for the luck the OP had with his broken striker. That is totally unexpected. I expect S&W to make it good.
The Sigma was my first handgun. It worked fine, just didn't shoot straight. I drifted the rear sight until it does. The trigger was heavy; I found videos about trigger work. It isn't heavy now. I shoot it now and then and enjoy the feel in my hands.
The gun isn't too expensive to fool with. I learned a lot and it gave me confidence to dig into nearly all my later guns.
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Striker problems don't seem to show up here,but what might be a total shock to some people that not all Sigma owners post here and not all genuine Sigma problems get posted anywhere. I don't even include the heavy trigger as a problem because it is and probably always will be as it is and should not be a surprise to anyone that researches a firearm before they buy it. The constant battle to turn this handgun into something it is not will continue to baffle and entertain me. I'll bet your striker will be replaced and under "normal" use last a longtime.
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Striker problems don't seem to show up here,but what might be a total shock to some people that not all Sigma owners post here and not all genuine Sigma problems get posted anywhere. I don't even include the heavy trigger as a problem because it is and probably always will be as it is and should not be a surprise to anyone that researches a firearm before they buy it. The constant battle to turn this handgun into something it is not will continue to baffle and entertain me. I'll bet your striker will be replaced and under "normal" use last a longtime.
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I hope so. I know this will get everyone all spun up, but I bought this gun because I wanted to get into a .40 cal and loved my Glock 17. As some have state earlier, the trigger can be worked, very easily I might add, to have a decent but still long pull. I would be very happy with the gun for the price I paid for it, if the striker had not broken. Maybe, and hopefully mine is a fluke, and the gun will be dependable after a striker replacement. If you can see it in the pictures I posted earlier, the tip, where it hits the primer was the 1st part of the striker to break. The other part of the striker to break was the thicker part in the middle. This 2nd break most likely happened during a dry fire. Know where in the manual does it say dry firing a Sigma will damage it. It even states after you check for an empty weapon before field strip, to dry fire it.
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Two Sigmas, 4000 rounds, one broken striker after 1000 rounds. S&W fixed it and it was fine until I traded it.
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Out of curiosity, where did your striker break?
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I've been active on this forum just a little over two years and have seen this cycle of new guys, old guys, old problems,bickering etc. about every six months. This too will pass. I believe that certain traits are not acceptable on the 1st post or the 1000th post and the Sigma section seems to be one of the worst on this site.
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So,what are you trying to say? Sigma section is full of crybabies or something?
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I had a striker break in less than 100 rounds. S&W fixed and returned in 10 days.
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I had one break on a circa 2001 sw9p (ported version). It broke after about 10 years of shooting and alot of dry firing. I sent the gun to s&w on their dime and they repaired it. No big deal on a less that $500 gun. I chalk it up as a reliable machine that had a hickup in 10 years service. All machines eventually fail.
Did notice that when I got the gun back it had an extra little white spring on the striker. Upgrade? Maybe.
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I'm saying this is a "Special" place compared to the other sections of this forum.
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Well I guess we could be more like the Lounge. We prefer to talk about sigma and sd all the time not Out Houses and our favorite nuts.
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03-02-2012, 08:11 PM
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S&W said not to pull the trigger and let the slide fly off or the striker will break. Is that in the manual? Or did someone from S&W tell you that?
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The manual actually does tell you exactly, step by step how to field strip your gun properly and if you read it it says to pull the trigger one time and remove your finger from the trigger and out of the trigger guard (I wonder why? Maybe they don't want the trigger pulled again during this process.). Next step is to pull the slide back 1/8 in.( I wonder why only an 1/8 in.? Maybe so that you don't re cock the gun.) and depress the take down catch on both sides. Next, allow the slide to return forward while depressing the take down catch and then to remove the slide by grasping it and pulling it forward (not by pulling the trigger after re cocking the gun, I wonder why. Maybe because that can damage the striker assembly??????) I was just trying to give you a heads up on what I have read 3 or 4 times recently about guys breaking their strikers by field stripping their guns incorrectly, if you think that is ridiculous, then do it with yours (if you haven't been already, since your striker is broken) and find out.
I have also asked a couple of gunsmiths who claim to be S&W authorized while talking to them about another issue a friend is having with the two stage pins in the sear housing block assembly in his new SW40VE and they both stated that this could break the striker, not that it will break it every time, but that it could break the striker.
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03-02-2012, 11:14 PM
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The manual actually does tell you exactly, step by step how to field strip your gun properly and if you read it it says to pull the trigger one time and remove your finger from the trigger and out of the trigger guard (I wonder why? Maybe they don't want the trigger pulled again during this process.). Next step is to pull the slide back 1/8 in.( I wonder why only an 1/8 in.? Maybe so that you don't re cock the gun.) and depress the take down catch on both sides. Next, allow the slide to return forward while depressing the take down catch and then to remove the slide by grasping it and pulling it forward (not by pulling the trigger after re cocking the gun, I wonder why. Maybe because that can damage the striker assembly??????) I was just trying to give you a heads up on what I have read 3 or 4 times recently about guys breaking their strikers by field stripping their guns incorrectly, if you think that is ridiculous, then do it with yours (if you haven't been already, since your striker is broken) and find out.
I have also asked a couple of gunsmiths who claim to be S&W authorized while talking to them about another issue a friend is having with the two stage pins in the sear housing block assembly in his new SW40VE and they both stated that this could break the striker, not that it will break it every time, but that it could break the striker.
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If this is true then the Sigma is a waste of money. S&W should make the striker of a higher quality metal, or someone should make an aftermarket striker.
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03-02-2012, 11:17 PM
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Someone kill this thread!!!!!!!!!!! Please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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03-03-2012, 12:04 AM
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If this is true then the Sigma is a waste of money. S&W should make the striker of a higher quality metal, or someone should make an aftermarket striker.
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Yeah, if this field strip is too difficult for someone to do properly, then it's a total waste of their money. I will gladly buy it for the right price, since it's junk and all.
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03-03-2012, 12:30 AM
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03-03-2012, 01:20 AM
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Yeah, if this field strip is too difficult for someone to do properly, then it's a total waste of their money. I will gladly buy it for the right price, since it's junk and all.
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Ok, let my try to explain this so even you can understand it (maybe). If you cock the slide back and let the sear get in front of the striker then the slide will not come off, all you have to do is dry fire again and then remove the slide. What you are saying is that when it goes back to far someone may pull the trigger which releases the slide. This does not put anymore pressure on the striker, then if you were to dry fire the gun. Get over yourself, I can't believe how butt hurt you people are on this forum when someone has a problem with a product that you have. As you can see there are other people that have had broken strikers, and according to you, it's their fault.
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