Strip and clean or straight to the range?

[DRPool]

Picking up the SD today and looking for your input. I've read that some guns are best cleaned up 1st, others are better served by running some rounds through them to loosen things up.

What's your experience been with the SD?

Thanks

[RalphMP9FS]

Clean it before the range.

[howiema]

I second for cleaning it definitely.

[pawpaw1967]

The sd gets better the more you shoot it.... that being said it never hurts to clean and oil a gun, Never. mine really smoothed out around 500 rounds, ive got close too 3000 rounds thru it now and just keeps on getting better. congrats on your new gun shoot safe and alot

[leejack]

Clean & Lube = Rock & Roll!

[FPrice]

Clean, lube, and just generally make sure everything seems to fit together well and works.

Then go enjoy.

[Arik]

Range

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[A.O.]

ALWAYS clean a new gun before shooting... My opinion anyway..

[Jlduke]

I usually grab some oil and head to the range. Get it dirty before you clean it.

[turbo6]

Honestly I put a few hundred rounds in mine before cleaning it for the first time. No problems. YMMV.

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[A.O.]

I used to work in a LGS, always took the guns apart before putting them in the display case.. just for practice and sometimes learning a new guns procedure.

You might be amazed what I found in there sometimes.. metal shavings from the manufacturing process, also steel beads from bead blasting parts and such.. other stuff too on occasion.

Wouldn't want to run my new gun with a chance of something being in there...FWIW

[leejack]

I always clean a new gun. I also clean & lube after every use.

Number of combined malfunctions from my former sigma + my sd=0.

[Bozz10mm]

I would say to always clean a new gun before heading to the range. Never heard the argument to go straight to the range with it, in fact, that is when people seem to have problems with FTE, FTF, etc.

You don't know how the firearm has left the factory. Maybe heavy preservatives, maybe over lubed, maybe no lube at all.

[fbcmrjrtykr]

The manual says clean first.


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[CommonCents]

Originally Posted by DRPool

Picking up the SD today and looking for your input. I've read that some guns are best cleaned up 1st, others are better served by running some rounds through them to loosen things up.

What's your experience been with the SD?

Thanks

shooting rounds to loosen up are very distinct and separate from cleaning/lubing the gun before use.

[leejack]

Another thing of beauty of the SD is the simple takedown.

[gwpercle]

Clean and lube. There is usually manufacturing residue, bits of grit and metal, hiding in crevices and crannies. You want to get that out and get some proper lube in there. It will function smoother.
Gary

[LimaCharlie]

Field strip, clean, and lube before going to the range. The LGS I frequent gets lots of new guns from new buyers returned for failures. The guns can dry out in storage or have manufacturing residue in them. The LGS owner tells new owners to clean and lube them and shows them how to field strip it. He also offers for them to bring the gun back for show and tell if they have any issues.

He cleans and lubes the returned guns and gives them to me with a box of FMJ and a box or two of self-defense ammo. I shoot the guns at the range with about 99.9999% success. He cleans and lubes the guns and gives them back to the owners with instructions to clean and lube the gun.

[DRPool]

Originally Posted by DRPool

Picking up the SD today and looking for your input. I've read that some guns are best cleaned up 1st, others are better served by running some rounds through them to loosen things up.

What's your experience been with the SD?

Thanks

Thanks for the input, picked her up this morning, brought her home and had time for a quick tear down, inspection and a drop or two of lube per the manual.

I asked the LGS the same question when I was there and he smirked and said just go shoot it.

FWIW, when I got it opened up it was pretty clean and dry. No gunk, grease or leave behinds on the patch. Gave the barrel a cleaning but it was nice and clean too.

Heading out this afternoon to give it a go.

Thanks again.

[leejack]

Let us know how she shoots!

[pawpaw1967]

good luck and enjoy!

[A.O.]

Originally Posted by DRPool

I asked the LGS the same question when I was there and he smirked and said just go shoot it.

.

If it were me, I'd find a different gun store!

[AnthemBassMan]

Originally Posted by A.O.

If it were me, I'd find a different gun store!

That's a big ol' bingo right there! That would be like buying a new car and the dealer tells you to don't worry about ever doing any maintenance. Treat that pistol right from the start and give it a thorough cleaning. I found a few metal chips in the striker channel. Clean it completely and lube it as the manual shows. Or do what I did and give it the full FrogLube treatment before hitting the range...

L8R,
Matt

[DRPool]

Originally Posted by A.O.

If it were me, I'd find a different gun store!

It's a big local all encompassing sporting goods house. They have a rep locally as being snobbish and they are certainly expensive. However, I caught a 20% off deal the week of Father's Day and I was pretty excited to get the gun for $400 out the door...tax and fees included.

They were cool with me, spent a lot of time and showed me a lot of guns. Throw away comments aside, I was really happy with the process. Next time they have a sale I'll go back for sure.

[fbcmrjrtykr]

Ah, the meaning of LGS. Local Gun Store? Or Local GunSmith? I have always wondered. Iwouldn't necessarily rely on what the former tells you as that's like based on opinion, which, as you know, are like butts. Everybody has one and most stink. I've gotten some crazy advice from guys behind the counter at sporting goods stores.


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[g8rb8]

Sure, it's not a bad idea to clean all firearms before you shoot them but is it really necessary? I have looked at a lot of new guns and used guns. It is uncommon to find a new gun with any significant debris, gunk, shavings, etc. even with it field stripped. So, if you've carefully inspected it and, if there's no problems I think it's probably an old wives tale that you universally need to or should "clean" it prior to shooting. On the other hand I have rarely seen a new gun, and occasionally seen a used gun, that looks like it could use a good cleaning before use.

I'll hunker down in my bunker for all the incoming.

John
Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training

[BE Mike]

Originally Posted by g8rb8

Sure, it's not a bad idea to clean all firearms before you shoot them but is it really necessary? I have looked at a lot of new guns and used guns. It is uncommon to find a new gun with any significant debris, gunk, shavings, etc. even with it field stripped. So, if you've carefully inspected it and, if there's no problems I think it's probably an old wives tale that you universally need to or should "clean" it prior to shooting. On the other hand I have rarely seen a new gun, and occasionally seen a used gun, that looks like it could use a good cleaning before use.

I'll hunker down in my bunker for all the incoming.

John
Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training

Yes, it is uncommon to find "debris, gunk, shavings, etc." in a new gun, but I have seen it in new guns. There may also be small grit that isn't readily seen with the naked eye. Why chance scratching the bore or otherwise buggering up a piece? It is also a good chance to get familiar with the workings of the piece. The only reason not to field strip a new gun; clean and oil it, is laziness.

[fbcmrjrtykr]

I did find metal debris while cleaning my gun. It was in my striker channel. I don't know if it was there when new, or built up there after a few hundred rounds. I didn't know to remove the striker and check early on.

[Bozz10mm]

It's not that hard to just field strip it and clean it first, so why not just do it. At the same time, you learn a little about the pistol.

[Haldir]

There have been some people that have reported issues by going straight out without cleaning. I never clean them first and have never had a problem. And yes, I have more than a couple of guns.

[hangnoose]

Basic field strip/ clean/ lube. Not just because the manual says to, but a visual inspection to check for any mechanical flaws during manufacturing, that could be harmful to the gun or shooter. If a defect IS found it's gonna be much easier to deal with customer service if the gun HAS NOT been fired, ESPECIALLY with reloads. Does it really take that long?

[LimaCharlie]

Even if the new gun out of the box is perfectly clean and has no manufacturing residue, it may have completely dried out in storage. I oil anything that rotates and lightly grease anything that slides.

In over fifty years of owning, carrying, and shooting hundreds of guns including twenty-two years in the military, I can count on my fingers the mechanical issues while shooting. Yet if I Google issues with any gun manufacturer or any model of gun, there will be pages of sites with pages of issues with the guns. I believe about 90% of the issues are from poor maintenance or poor inspection prior to shooting.

I carried one of the original Colt M-16s for a year in Viet Nam. Contrary to internet myths, the only issue was they were designed and tested with very clean ammo and were supplied with dirty low-bid ammo. I cleaned and lubed mine frequently and had zero issues with it.

[MOONDAWG]

Yep, clean & lube first here too...

[micocyco]

Over 2 years ago I picked up my SD9ve at a gun show got some reloads there also went right to the range & put a 100 through it.
Not saying one would be wrong to clean it first, just what I did cause I could not wait to try it out.
I do shoot it a lot stopped counting Rds at 2400, reason at first was I lost the count sheet & said what the heck I am never going to sell or trade it. I have found that this pistol runs any ammo I can find reload or not, HP or +P, clean or dirty.

[shawn mccarver]

Originally Posted by DRPool

Picking up the SD today and looking for your input. I've read that some guns are best cleaned up 1st, others are better served by running some rounds through them to loosen things up.

What's your experience been with the SD?

Thanks

Wipe out the barrel and go shoot. Remember, the last thing they did with it at the factory prior to packaging was to test fire. Consider it an extended test! If the weapon won't function after one magazine or less, or however many the factory fires for testing, then you have bigger problems than any cleaning will solve. The only reason they tell you to clean first is to get rid of excess oil or grease, or any possible obstruction in the bore.

[biglatino74]

Clean it, lube it, shoot it and repeat as often as possible.

[Bundesheer]

I would take it apart and clean it. Excessive oil or a dry gun is bad. But also for being familiar with the gun and relay check for everything and anything before shooting. The neighbor found a crack in the slide on his brand new Glock 19.
Oppinion off.

[frankmako]

new gun, clean and lube before shooting.

[Rustyt1953]

My LGS is a small operation. He cleans all the firearms upon receipt. He let me shoot my SD9VE before I paid for it. Before I left, he cleaned and lubed it for me. That's why I go back. Your gun can never be "too clean". Congrats on your new pistol.

[rwsmith]

If it's a semi, often they run better the first time if they've been cleaned and lubed. I've hear people complain they got to the range and things didn't work smoothly. Even with a revolver it's good to get debris from machining out of it before shooting it and a little oil will do it nothing but good.

[OKFC05]

Sure, it's not a bad idea to clean all firearms before you shoot them but is it really necessary? I have looked at a lot of new guns

Well, if you're the guy at the range that gets the "my new gun is jamming! Can you help me?" you get to see ONLY the ones that aren't working because "Why should I clean it? It's brand new!!"

So new gun owners, please clean your new guns (and magazines) before firing, or else when they don't work, take them to the people who told you it wasn't needed, and leave me the heck alone!

[captcook]

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Yep, clean it first the factory puts preservatives on the gun that need to be cleaned before shooting and welcome to the forum

[turbo38gn]

I've bought about 10 new M&P's, don't think I've cleaned or lubed any before shooting the heck out of them... Like a few have said, they were shot before boxing up and shipping, they should be able to run a few more rounds through them. I will take a peek down the barrel to be sure no obstruction. My reasoning is I want to be sure the gun is solid from the factory before I put my mitts on it and screw something up. Too many times, right here, on this board, guys have come here and had problems with brandy new guns they broke down and screwed up on reassembly. They don't usually admit it, just scream from the highest mountain how quality control at S&W has gone down the tubes. Even though this is usually their first gun...

[G.T. Smith]

I always field strip and lube before shooting new guns. A brand new Colt Government I bought was nearly dry inside. After a box of shells, (50) I totally disassembled it and inside the receiver was kind of sticky and I couldn't really see any lubrication. It never malfunctioned but that has to wear on a new gun. I vote for cleaning before shooting.
peace,
gordon

[John R]

Originally Posted by fbcmrjrtykr

The manual says clean first.


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That's what I've read too.