carring with or without a bullet in the barrel?

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I have a question for you that caring the sd9 as a ccw. I normally don’t carry the sd9 as a ccw because the sd9 is too big and too heavy on the office job.
But I carry the sd9 on the boat or vehicle.
The sd9 has no safety and I feel not comfortable with a bullet in the chamber without any safety besides a long triggerway directly on my bones.
How do you handle the sdve in a ccw scenario? Do you carry a Bullet in the barrel or not? What is your take on it?
Thank you
 
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This question comes up quite often with different models. The answer comes down to this. Without a round chambered, you are basically carrying an unloaded weapon. The chances of you being able to camber a round in an emergency are almost none. What if someone grabs one of your arms or hands. If you are carrying without a round chambered, you might be better off to use it as a club.

With a round chambered, the probability of a ND is at the highest when you holster, so you want to make sure nothing is getting suck in your trigger guard. You will want to make sure your holster is made for your gun and is good quality. It should cover your trigger and not move around.

I have a Shield with a safety that I use when holstering and then I switch it off.
 
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Might as well carry it loaded. A couple things have to happen for the SD to fire. First the trigger has to be pressed back enough to disengage the trigger safety. The trigger safety works the same as a Glock. But instead of using a blade in the center of the trigger, it uses a hinged trigger setup. Then only when the trigger is pulled all the way to the rear, will the trigger bar press up on the firing pin block allowing the firing pin to reach the primer. These are actual physically operating safeties that work along with each other for the pistol to fire. If the striker ever would release accidentally, the block is still there to stop it unless it's physically pushed out of the way...

L8R,
Matt
 
Suggest you take a good pistol class and get more familiar with handling your gun, which usually alleviates the common anxiety in new shooters of the plastic fantastic. A proper holster and proper gun handling are vital, and when you practice drawing, cocking and firing against the clock, compared to just drawing and firing, you will probably answer your own question.
 
I do both , may not make sense to some , but depends on where I am & who is around. I did take a class & do practice both I can draw & rack really fast but nothing is faster than having a round in the chamber. Also racking the slide does make a distinctive sound.
 
Huuummmm:
U guys mean I should not deal with a gun at all and go first for a training to go familiar with a weapon?

OK - you guys mean 3 wars several small civilian unrest in Africa 7 injuries and day and night patrols in war zones are not enough?
Well true, a war zone is different and in a war zone I would not ask the question. Lucky me I live not in a war zone anymore but in the land of the free Texas. The biggest problem here in my neighborhood are some liberals looking for drug money.

But OK. I did not know that I'm dealing here with supra green barrettes of pistol fights.
Sorry to ask that question.

Barney Fife
 
Bundesheer said:
Huuummmm:
U guys mean I should not deal with a gun at all and go first for a training to go familiar with a weapon?

OK - you guys mean 3 wars several small civilian unrest in Africa 7 injuries and day and night patrols in war zones are not enough?
Well true, a war zone is different and in a war zone I would not ask the question. Lucky me I live not in a war zone anymore but in the land of the free Texas. The biggest problem here in my neighborhood are some liberals looking for drug money.

But OK. I did not know that I'm dealing here with supra green barrettes of pistol fights.
Sorry to ask that question.

Barney Fife
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Barney, I think you answered your own question. It's different.

Just for my own information, did you ask your drill sergeant if you should carry a "bullet in the barrel?"

(that was kinda mean . . . I know)
 
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Bundesheer....no offense meant.....you gave us no background and as someone pointed out your terminology left; me at least ,wondering about your experience level.

When I opened your thread "Bullet in the barrel"...... that's a squib load....I noted; "LOL"...... that I was joking...

The second part of my answer was a brief but more serious inquiry and response........I don't own a sd9..... but my recollection is that it has a long (well at least longer than a Glock) trigger.......if you are comfortable with a revolver then you may be comfortable with the sd9.

Edit: Thinking/reading your second post.........."barrettes".... might I recommend a Beretta 92 Compact......they are making them again (with a light rail)....... 13+1 vs. 15 and 4.25 inch barrel vs. 4.9 compared to a issue 92. You can carry concealed without too much effort ( I often do) or consider it a OWB "almost full size" gun..........I'm assuming (which got me in trouble the first time...LOL) it's a platform you familiar and comfortable with. with factory /meg-gar mags and hollow-point it's not "Uncle Sugar's" 92!!!!!!!!!
 
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A general followed by a specfic comment...

Many members here have posted a similar question stating that they have very little gun handling experience...obviously this does not pertain to you, but you didn't state this from the outset.

To answer your specific question, you have to follow what your training and experience shows works for you. Most people here (many who have military, law enforcement or other training) will tell you it is perfectly safe to carry your SD9 with a round in the chamber. From a functional/mechanical standpoint that is true but it may not pertain to you and your specific situation. Hope this is helpful.
 
Yes, same carry principle as any double action revolver. Rounds are loaded, but it won't fire unless your finger is pressing the trigger back. It may just be feeling strange to you carrying around civilians. Honestly I would not carry the pistol unloaded. If something happens and you can't rack the slide back, all you have is a small billy club.

L8R,
Matt
 
you guys mean 3 wars several small civilian unrest in Africa 7 injuries and day and night patrols in war zones are not enough?
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Your extensive experience with military weapons changes my advice not at all. The manual of arms for a striker-fired civilian carry piece is quite different, and I have many military types who find my 3 hour classroom and range familiarization with the new striker guns quite valuable. With the trigger safety, new precautions and habits need to be learned to protect the trigger from anything that could cause a negligent discharge, such as a strap on a holster (wrong holster!).
I have had to DQ some Army guys at club competitions because they had the nasty habit of keeping their finger on the trigger while running between firing points.
So no, military training does not usually cover the manual of arms for the striker fired guns. And in my familiarization class, we don't cover military tactics like looking for land mines
 
If you are not going to carry in condition one, at least carry a large, all metal, heavy handgun so you can pistol whip someone with it.
 
Bundesheer said:
But OK. I did not know that I'm dealing here with supra green barrettes of pistol fights.
Sorry to ask that question.
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You can be as defensive and as "snarky" as you care to be, but the fact remains that your question could have been more properly worded.

I don't care if we're talking about General Patton or Sergeant York (or even a member of the "Green Berets")...if they aren't aware of the difference between the "barrel" and the "chamber" of a firearm, or the difference between a "bullet" and a "cartridge", they may require further instruction before walking around anywhere with a loaded gun.

You must do what is right for you, and for your level of experience and confidence, both in yourself and in your chosen platform. But, by and large...the general consensus is that, if you're competent enough to carry a firearm, and you have chosen a relatively modern quality firearm and proper gear (holster/belt/etc.)...the best choice will almost always be to have a round chambered.

Tim
 
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