Range story.

[alexfitch225]

I've had my sd9ve for about a month or so, drug it to an outdoor range started firing my rifles then I start rolling with my hand gun. Almost immediately this guy from the adjacent lane to me comes over and starts looking at my handgun, starts asking questions such as what kind is it, as soon as I said sd9ve the guy gets this look on his face that you only see when someone eats a raw lemon. He begins rifling off how the SD is awful so on an so forth. Takes out his handgun it was some glock chambered in 40 and said here try this. So needless to say I ran his glock empty and then asked him how much he paid for that. He replied with his number I told him that I only payed 305 after ffl transfer and shipping for mine and have well over 700 rounds through it so far with 0 issues what so ever. Yeah my trigger might not be light but who cares, honestly it helps me get over anticipating the shot.

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[federali]

You have encountered a range cretin. My philosophy is: if I have nothing good to say, I say nothing. I'll offer an honest opinion only when asked. Even then, it's best not to propagate internet rumors. Most people take pride in their handgun selections and you don't make friends or open doors by stepping on peoples' toes.

[Lee's Landing Billy]

Clint Smith calls these people "**** lickers". You're standing on the range shooting. A good day. All in the a zone. You look at the man next to you and say..What a GREAT day.. He replies...supposed to rain later...**** licker. Most all of our NEW residents when asked how their day is or how their meal is or anything really..reply..Not Too Bad. NEVER in the affirmative..Pretty good or just fine. Always negative..Not too bad. I would never eat or visit anything or place that was Not Too Bad. **** lickers.

[Radco]

First Alex WELCOME to the group!
I see you have met what some people call a Gun Snob! :O Mine is better then yours crowd always cracks me up!
They may pay more but if it goes bang and hit the target for 1/2 the price who cares what they think :O I guess some people need to brag about something lol

[GKC]

No matter what gun you have, there will be those who have something negative to say about it. I've owned a lot of different guns, and as a result, I've been a member of a lot of gun-specific forums, as well as some general discussion ones, and without fail there are those whose mantra is "my gun/brand is great and everything else sucks."

I'm not going to deny that the H&K or SIG pistols that I've owned are more refined than the SDVE series pistols...they are. On the other hand, the SDVE series is a lot more refined than the Hi-Point pistols that I've owned (and I've owned a Hi-Point in .45 ACP, .40 S&W, and 9mm.) If you want to, you can always find something better or worse than what you have.

SDVE series pistols are inexpensive, extremely reliable, and are very capable in their intended role: self defense. If you want something to impress the gun snobs, these aren't the gun for that...but then, if you buy anything just to impress someone else, YOU are a snob.

[SccyPilot]

Shoot what you are comfortable with...shot placement in my opinion is more important than caliber or looks...remember after a justified self defense shooting your $1,000 pistol may not be returned back to you from LE...a $300 pistol wont be missed as much if LE wont return it back to you...I also have some high end pistols to look at and shoot from time to time but my everyday "Workhorse" is my SD9VE!

[alexfitch225]

Thanks for the welcoming guys! I also have another theory, but I won't share that because. Well I don't want to come off as an a hole. The part that tripped me out is that I had no prior contact with this guy at any point through the range session so far. Another thing is would you really mildly insult a stranger with a gun in his hand given this crazy world we live in nowadays?

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[MyDads38]

The SD9VE was my first poly/striker fired handgun. I've got 1,500 + rounds through mine with no issues at all, and it's factory stock. While shooting at the indoor range, one of the instructors saw my target and asked what I was shooting. When I told him SD9VE, he asked what mods did I have? When I told him it was all stock, he smiled and said wow nice shooting! He was impressed with my target and my ability with a stock $300 poly handgun. This from a certified instructor, who has shot, tuned and trained with some high dollar gear! It's not so much the gun, as the person pulling the trigger :-)

[Disabled1]

All of my life I had been a steel firearm shooter. When the Glock came out, I thought to myself,"A plastic pistol. That won't last long!"
Fast forward to 2008. S&W had "sort" of copied Glock's design. They were running an offer, a $50 rebate, or, a free magazine with the purchase of either the SW9VE, or, the SW40VE. My LGS was selling both calibers for $279. This deal seemed too good to be true. I went there and rented a SW40VE (I had a few 9mm's at the time) and shot a box of rounds through it. This was my first time to ever shoot a striker fire pistol. I liked it, and bought one. A couple of months later I bought a SW9VE and opted for the $50 rebate again.
Every time I went to the range by myself I was always getting weird, dirty looks, and my SW's were getting a tongue lashing from the Glock Suckers. I would sometimes comment, but, mostly kept quiet. In my head I knew that I had a "poor mans Glock" but, about $300 cheaper in price.
When I bought my sons SD9VE earlier this year, my FFL cousin (He's a Sig freak) rode me like a horse about how cheap he "thought" my S&W Tupperware was in his eyes. So, I challenged him to a shootout. We each shot at targets 25' away with one factory mag. I used my SD9VE and shot 17 rounds at my target, hitting the very edge of the center bulls eye once, the rest all around it less than 2.5" away from center. He shot his Sig and beat me like a red head step child, but, did give me kudos on my shooting. He then wanted to shoot my SD. He shot at the target, hitting it BETTER than what he shot with his Sig at it! To this day he now owns one in each caliber!
When I go to indoor ranges to shoot my S&W Tupperware , I still get those "looks." I just ignore them and keep thinking how much less I spent on mine than what they spent on theirs.
OP, don't let it bother you. Just keep in mind how much less you paid for your SD than what they paid for their Glocks. These pistols are great and will shoot ANY ammo you feed them. And, just as good, or, better than those Glock Suckers!

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Originally Posted by Radco

First Alex WELCOME to the group!
I see you have met what some people call a Gun Snob! :O Mine is better then yours crowd always cracks me up!
They may pay more but if it goes bang and hit the target for 1/2 the price who cares what they think :O I guess some people need to brag about something lol

Nothing wrong with being a gun snob. Many of us are, even though we know it's more or less wrong. What shows no class is letting anyone else know it. What federali said above is just common sense and good manners. Too bad some people lack those.

[Warren Sear]

I always like it when there is no one else at the range to ask stupid questions or make stupid comments and I can shoot in peace.

[Chefc14]

I had a SCCY 9mm, a Taurus PT111G2 and a .38 Charter Arms Revolver. I decided I wanted a Glock 17 because I just loved the way it felt in my hand. My FFL told me I'd enjoy the SD9 as much as the Glock and I'd save money. I like Larry and I knew he wouldn't steer me wrong. I read reviews, I handled the SD and thought about it. I went back the next day and purchased the SD and Larry was right. I now have sold the SCCY because I had to send it back twice to be fixed, I sold th Taurus because I wanted an SD40 and I sold the revolver because I decided I wanted an M&P Shield to go with my other two Smith and Wessons. I'm happy with my decisions but I also know I most likely will buy that 17 one day because I still love the way it sits in my hand. I can't put my finger on why else I like that gun so much. I've looked at all of the Glocks available but that 17 just calls to me. One day I'll find a deal and won't be able to walk away from it but I will keep my SD's for sure.

[GKC]

Originally Posted by Chefc14

I also know I most likely will buy that 17 one day because I still love the way it sits in my hand. I can't put my finger on why else I like that gun so much.

The best thing you can do is buy guns that you like. It's good to read reviews and get other people's opinions (especially those with real experience) to determine reliability, performance, etc. At the end of the day, though, it doesn't matter what someone else thinks...buy the gun YOU like and want, and you'll have a better chance of being happy.

[Radco]

Originally Posted by Model520Fan

Nothing wrong with being a gun snob. Many of us are, even though we know it's more or less wrong. What shows no class is letting anyone else know it. What federali said above is just common sense and good manners. Too bad some people lack those.

I agree we all have a gun or something that we think is the best IMO that doesn't make you a snob. It the people who trash someone because they do not think the same way they do about something! Now is a Glock a higher end pistol/ Yes it is I do like Glocks ,just like a Cadillac is better made the a YUGO :O Both get you there on what ever budget yo have lol

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by Disabled1

All of my life I had been a steel firearm shooter. When the Glock came out, I thought to myself,"A plastic pistol. That won't last long!"
Fast forward to 2008. S&W had "sort" of copied Glock's design. They were running an offer, a $50 rebate, or, a free magazine with the purchase of either the SW9VE, or, the SW40VE. My LGS was selling both calibers for $279. This deal seemed too good to be true. I went there and rented a SW40VE (I had a few 9mm's at the time) and shot a box of rounds through it. This was my first time to ever shoot a striker fire pistol. I liked it, and bought one. A couple of months later I bought a SW9VE and opted for the $50 rebate again.
Every time I went to the range by myself I was always getting weird, dirty looks, and my SW's were getting a tongue lashing from the Glock Suckers. I would sometimes comment, but, mostly kept quiet. In my head I knew that I had a "poor mans Glock" but, about $300 cheaper in price.
When I bought my sons SD9VE earlier this year, my FFL cousin (He's a Sig freak) rode me like a horse about how cheap he "thought" my S&W Tupperware was in his eyes. So, I challenged him to a shootout. We each shot at targets 25' away with one factory mag. I used my SD9VE and shot 17 rounds at my target, hitting the very edge of the center bulls eye once, the rest all around it less than 2.5" away from center. He shot his Sig and beat me like a red head step child, but, did give me kudos on my shooting. He then wanted to shoot my SD. He shot at the target, hitting it BETTER than what he shot with his Sig at it! To this day he now owns one in each caliber!
When I go to indoor ranges to shoot my S&W Tupperware , I still get those "looks." I just ignore them and keep thinking how much less I spent on mine than what they spent on theirs.
OP, don't let it bother you. Just keep in mind how much less you paid for your SD than what they paid for their Glocks. These pistols are great and will shoot ANY ammo you feed them. And, just as good, or, better than those Glock Suckers!

I truly love my sd9ve, except fitting 16 rounds in the mags.. that my fellow sd9ve owners is a pain in the thumbs... till I picked up an uplula. I really find it odd that glock seems to have more of these snobs than most, for example; at the same range (different day) a guy had a beautiful fn of some sort gave me more compliments about my sd9ve than I knew what to do with.

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[KELSW]

As a newbee shooter and baby senior citizen , I had never shot a gun before in my life. My first handgun was a SD9VE because it was more reasonably priced and I was not sure I would enjoy shooting . Now I have a Shield 9mm for CC and they main reason I bought it was a thumb safety . I am sure Glocks are good guns but was uncomfortable carrying it in a purse . I purchased for a reason and spend time at the range to get comfortable handling my guns etc. My SD9VE is a home defense gun not a "range gun" even though I have taken it to the range.

[GKC]

Originally Posted by KELSW

I am sure Glocks are good guns but was uncomfortable carrying it in a purse.

I never liked carrying a Glock in my purse either...

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by KELSW

As a newbee shooter and baby senior citizen , I had never shot a gun before in my life. My first handgun was a SD9VE because it was more reasonably priced and I was not sure I would enjoy shooting . Now I have a Shield 9mm for CC and they main reason I bought it was a thumb safety . I am sure Glocks are good guns but was uncomfortable carrying it in a purse . I purchased for a reason and spend time at the range to get comfortable handling my guns etc. My SD9VE is a home defense gun not a "range gun" even though I have taken it to the range.

I use my sd9ve for a bit of both. I've never been too much of a handgun person myself. Particularly speaking rifles tend to be my strong suit.

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[Disabled1]

Originally Posted by Chefc14

I had a SCCY 9mm, a Taurus PT111G2 and a .38 Charter Arms Revolver. I decided I wanted a Glock 17 because I just loved the way it felt in my hand. My FFL told me I'd enjoy the SD9 as much as the Glock and I'd save money. I like Larry and I knew he wouldn't steer me wrong. I read reviews, I handled the SD and thought about it. I went back the next day and purchased the SD and Larry was right. I now have sold the SCCY because I had to send it back twice to be fixed, I sold th Taurus because I wanted an SD40 and I sold the revolver because I decided I wanted an M&P Shield to go with my other two Smith and Wessons. I'm happy with my decisions but I also know I most likely will buy that 17 one day because I still love the way it sits in my hand. I can't put my finger on why else I like that gun so much. I've looked at all of the Glocks available but that 17 just calls to me. One day I'll find a deal and won't be able to walk away from it but I will keep my SD's for sure.

I have shot a few Glocks in my lifetime. And, to me, they just don't feel "correct/right" in my hand. I feel as if I am handling a 2X4.
"BUT," like you, there is "SOMETHING" about the Glock 17 that draws me to it. If, and I mean "IF" I ever buy a Glock I would prefer a Gen 2-17. I don't like a pistol grip with finger grooves making me have to place my fingers where I don't want them.
BTW, there are a few parts that interchange between the Glock and the SD/SW series pistols.

[Chefc14]

I have a big paw and my fingers never fit in the grooves. That was the case with my SCCY. It never troubled me though.

[brchambersjr]

I love it when the range snobs think that their higher priced pistols are better than my lowly SDVE and then I look at their target and it's all over the place but my shots are nice and tight.

Bill

[GKC]

Originally Posted by brchambersjr

I love it when the range snobs think that their higher priced pistols are better than my lowly SDVE and then I look at their target and it's all over the place but my shots are nice and tight.

A master craftsman can produce good work even with inferior tools, but even the best tools won't produce good work from those who lack skills.

This isn't to say the SDVE pistols are inferior tools, and it also isn't to deny that superior tools can make achieving great results easier. However, the man masters the tool, not vice versa.

[rwsmith]

I know what guns are out there. If I wanted a Glock, I would have bought a Glock. The thing is that I once considered buying a Glock, but haven't yet.

Tell the range cretin to put that in his pipe and smoke it. And maybe ask if he's a sponsor for Glock.

[alexfitch225]

Funny thing is, I haven't seen him there since that day. Maybe he got the point that nobody wants to hear his bs.

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[GKC]

Originally Posted by rwsmith

I know what guns are out there. If I wanted a Glock, I would have bought a Glock.

Well...sometimes, it does come down to price. Since most Glock models are over $500 and the SDVEs are usually about $200 less, that difference in price can matter if you are on a budget, and still need to buy ammo, a holster, cleaning supplies, etc.

Frankly, I've owned several Glocks (17, 19, 21, 23, 26, 30SF, and 36) and none of them felt comfortable in my hand, except the 36. I find the SD9VE to be more comfortable and give me a better grip than any Glock. I'd still prefer the SDVE over a Glock, even if they were priced the same, or the Glock was lower in price.

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by GKC

Well...sometimes, it does come down to price. Since most Glock models are over $500 and the SDVEs are usually about $200 less, that difference in price can matter if you are on a budget, and still need to buy ammo, a holster, cleaning supplies, etc.

Frankly, I've owned several Glocks (17, 19, 21, 23, 26, 30SF, and 36) and none of them felt comfortable in my hand, except the 36. I find the SD9VE to be more comfortable and give me a better grip than any Glock. I'd still prefer the SDVE over a Glock, even if they were priced the same, or the Glock was lower in price.

The only other 2 handguns I've fired that felt more comfortable was an xd9 and a 1911. But both of those are priced completely different from a sd9ve

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[mcmaniac]

If I could have one of everything, I would. If I had time to shoot half of the ones I already have, I'd be a happy man.
I have offered others the chance to try what I've brought with me that day, and they usually return the favor. I don't think I've ever not liked what they were nice enough to share, and everyone that has tried mine seems to have had fun. I've never had anyone criticize mine, and I damn sure would not be rude enough to say an unkind word about another's choice. Like I said though, I do seem to like whatever is in hand.

[GKC]

Originally Posted by alexfitch225

The only other 2 handguns I've fired that felt more comfortable was an xd9 and a 1911. But both of those are priced completely different from a sd9ve

I agree completely about 1911s...they are my favorite pistol when it comes to grip and mechanical action. I don't care for them for carry, though. I've owned a couple of XDM pistols, and they were very good...I bought an XDS in .45 when they first came out, but the recall was announced right after I bought it, before I even shot it, and my LGS took it back in trade for what I paid for it. Here lately I've been thinking about getting a .45, and maybe another XDS in .45, but now that the Shield has come out in .45, I think I'll be saving for that.

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by mcmaniac

If I could have one of everything, I would. If I had time to shoot half of the ones I already have, I'd be a happy man.
I have offered others the chance to try what I've brought with me that day, and they usually return the favor. I don't think I've ever not liked what they were nice enough to share, and everyone that has tried mine seems to have had fun. I've never had anyone criticize mine, and I damn sure would not be rude enough to say an unkind word about another's choice. Like I said though, I do seem to like whatever is in hand.

With me it's all about impressions. If he wouldn't have acted like that, it wouldn't have been an issue. As far as fire arms I didn't really enjoy, I've fired a few hi points and even though their cheap as heck and are heavy enough to have next to no noticeable flip, I didn't really care for the completely brick feel, that also reminds me of the tarus raging judge, 454 casull isn't fun to me at all... OK maybe a round or 2 but that's it.

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[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by GKC

I agree completely about 1911s...they are my favorite pistol when it comes to grip and mechanical action. I don't care for them for carry, though. I've owned a couple of XDM pistols, and they were very good...I bought an XDS in .45 when they first came out, but the recall was announced right after I bought it, before I even shot it, and my LGS took it back in trade for what I paid for it. Here lately I've been thinking about getting a .45, and maybe another XDS in .45, but now that the Shield has come out in .45, I think I'll be saving for that.

I've only shot the m&p in 9 when it first came out, I rented it and fired 50 rounds through it. I can't seem to recall how it felt I think I'll have to head down there a few days from now and give it another whirl. Now that I think more in depth the first sdve pistol I shot was the sd40ve and that's how I found out I didn't care for 40 sw. I find it odd I like 9 and I like 45 but I can't stand the feel of 40sw. Sorry for rambling I didn't get a chance to talk firearms enough today apparently.

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[GKC]

Originally Posted by alexfitch225

I find it odd I like 9 and I like 45 but I can't stand the feel of 40sw. Sorry for rambling I didn't get a chance to talk firearms enough today apparently.

You're a long way from rambling!

I agree with you about 9mm and 45 ACP and not liking .40 S&W, and it's due to the type of recoil. A 9mm has a soft recoil, to me anyway, and a .45 has a straight back "push" into the hand. The .40 S&W has a hard upward snap, IMO, and I don't care for it.

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by GKC

You're a long way from rambling!

I agree with you about 9mm and 45 ACP and not liking .40 S&W, and it's due to the type of recoil. A 9mm has a soft recoil, to me anyway, and a .45 has a straight back "push" into the hand. The .40 S&W has a hard upward snap, IMO, and I don't care for it.

Ever try 357 sig? It reminds me of a 45 acp with a bit more noise and a smaller bullet. It's an odd one and that's coming from a guy who has a few boxes of 7.62 tokarev and some 9 Makarov

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[GKC]

Originally Posted by alexfitch225

Ever try 357 sig? It reminds me of a 45 acp with a bit more noise and a smaller bullet. It's an odd one and that's coming from a guy who has a few boxes of 7.62 tokarev and some 9 Makarov

No, I haven't. I came close to buying one...my LGS was offering me a good deal on a SIG in .357 SIG (sounds funny, doesn't it) and I was considering it, but they didn't have any ammo for it, so I didn't buy it. I've never owned or shot a 10MM either.

The most oddball caliber I've ever owned was a S&W Model 544 in .44-40 WCF. It was the Texas Wagon Train model.

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[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by GKC

No, I haven't. I came close to buying one...my LGS was offering me a good deal on a SIG in .357 SIG (sounds funny, doesn't it) and I was considering it, but they didn't have any ammo for it, so I didn't buy it. I've never owned or shot a 10MM either.

The most oddball caliber I've ever owned was a S&W Model 544 in .44-40 WCF. It was the Texas Wagon Train model.

As far as owning odditys was my tokarev. On the hand grip the previous owner had his name on there in Czech. That tokarev is long gone now. As far as caliber goes and owning I'd have to say would be my uncle Jim's old webly and Scott revolver, that thing was a blast when it was clean, but as soon as it got dirty thing did not want to fire.

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[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by therewolf

A friend of mine used to call these guys "the annoying crew".
They usually know a lot less than they say.

As GKC previously said, just get what you like to shoot, and
always get good quality. The only person you have to make happy at the range is you.

IME, cringing at the register results in a gun you will be happy with for many years. Don't be afraid to spend up when you
know you have a good thing.

I've had a few handguns, I really like s&w for their painless warranty process.

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[rwsmith]

Originally Posted by GKC

Well...sometimes, it does come down to price. Since most Glock models are over $500 and the SDVEs are usually about $200 less, that difference in price can matter if you are on a budget, and still need to buy ammo, a holster, cleaning supplies, etc.

Frankly, I've owned several Glocks (17, 19, 21, 23, 26, 30SF, and 36) and none of them felt comfortable in my hand, except the 36. I find the SD9VE to be more comfortable and give me a better grip than any Glock. I'd still prefer the SDVE over a Glock, even if they were priced the same, or the Glock was lower in price.

The don't call 'em Blocks for nothing.

[Hotshot9]

One day I was at my local indoor range with a couple of my guns and was setting up and the guy next to me asked about my SW 9mm 5"pc. I told him that I really like it and shot pretty good with it. He went on to tell me all the bad things about it. The ported barrel and ported slide and how expensive the gun was.... He was shooting a glock, not sure of the model. Well he was shooting at playing cards at 5 yards away... He hands me a playing card and says see if you can hit this... I'm thinking really!! So I send that card down about 15 yards and commence to shredding that thing with 17 rounds and rapid fired the last 3.. He never said another word to me.....lol Now I'm not sure the last two of the three I shot hit the target but I made my point...

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by Hotshot9

One day I was at my local indoor range with a couple of my guns and was setting up and the guy next to me asked about my SW 9mm 5"pc. I told him that I really like it and shot pretty good with it. He went on to tell me all the bad things about it. The ported barrel and ported slide and how expensive the gun was.... He was shooting a glock, not sure of the model. Well he was shooting at playing cards at 5 yards away... He hands me a playing card and says see if you can hit this... I'm thinking really!! So I send that card down about 15 yards and commence to shredding that thing with 17 rounds and rapid fired the last 3.. He never said another word to me.....lol Now I'm not sure the last two of the three I shot hit the target but I made my point...

You know that leads me to another odd point, I've noticed the more sustained I fire my sd9ve I'm not quite as accurate as I am with others. But rapid fire with the sd9ve, I can get a decent grouping going at 15 yards or so.

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[Hotshot9]

Originally Posted by alexfitch225

You know that leads me to another odd point, I've noticed the more sustained I fire my sd9ve I'm not quite as accurate as I am with others. But rapid fire with the sd9ve, I can get a decent grouping going at 15 yards or so.

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As someone said earlier about the sd9ve has little muzzle flip. Maybe that has something to do with it. I have no clue I have never shot a sd9ve.

[star1]

Originally Posted by Hotshot9

As someone said earlier about the sd9ve has little muzzle flip. Maybe that has something to do with it. I have no clue I have never shot a sd9ve.

Not so sure about that Me in full recoil with my SD9VE at IDPA match

[Disabled1]

Originally Posted by alexfitch225

The only other 2 handguns I've fired that felt more comfortable was an xd9 and a 1911. But both of those are priced completely different from a sd9ve

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I just recently bought a Ruger 9E 9mm. That's about the equivalent to the SD9VE.
I like it very much. It's a keeper.
I have my eye on the new Ruger American compact 9mm. That thing sure looks like a tack driver!

[mnshutterbug]

Originally Posted by GKC

A master craftsman can produce good work even with inferior tools, but even the best tools won't produce good work from those who lack skills.

However, the man masters the tool, not vice versa.

So true. When I used to sell my photos at shows I was always amazed at the number of people would say "you must really have a good camera". This would be similar to saying to an award winning chef "you must really have some good cookware".

[mnshutterbug]

Originally Posted by alexfitch225

I truly love my sd9ve, except fitting 16 rounds in the mags.. that my fellow sd9ve owners is a pain in the thumbs... till I picked up an uplula.

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I've found the very same issue. I am unable to get more than 13 rounds in the magazine, which should be enough but I'm hoping the spring will loosen up over time. I've shot only 100 rounds through this pistol so far.

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by mnshutterbug

I've found the very same issue. I am unable to get more than 13 rounds in the magazine, which should be enough but I'm hoping the spring will loosen up over time. I've shot only 100 rounds through this pistol so far.

Get an uplula I get all in there everything as long as the mag base is on a sturdy table top.

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[GKC]

Originally Posted by Disabled1

I just recently bought a Ruger 9E 9mm. That's about the equivalent to the SD9VE.

I bought a 9E about a year ago. The trigger on it was better than the SD9VE, IMO. I liked it OK, and the mags hold 17 rounds. My LGS was offering a two-pack for $40, which was a real bargain. I eventually sold it, though, because it was just a little too big in my hand.

I wish Ruger would make a 9E Compact...I think the 9E is better set up than the SR9.

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by star1

Not so sure about that Me in full recoil with my SD9VE at IDPA match

Nice shot man.

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[Hotshot9]

Originally Posted by star1

Not so sure about that Me in full recoil with my SD9VE at IDPA match

Good action shot! Like I said I have never shot sd9ve. Now with your picture as as proof of flip. makes me wonder how he could shoot better groups by rapid firing? makes no sense to me....

[alexfitch225]

Originally Posted by Hotshot9

Good action shot! Like I said I have never shot sd9ve. Now with your picture as as proof of flip. makes me wonder how he could shoot better groups by rapid firing? makes no sense to me....

I kid you not the faster you roll on the trigger the easier it is to control for me. I'm not entirely sure why. I've also noticed (probably due to the heavier trigger) when firing controlled, ill sometimes pull to the left from recoil anticipation. It's a real bad habit that I'll work through only when I fire the sd9ve more.

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Originally Posted by alexfitch225

Nice shot man.

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Thanks , my friend that went down to the match with me took a bunch that came out real good

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