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The Apex Ultimate Drop In Striker Block Kit has arrived
Apex Tactical Specialties is happy to announce our latest product for the Smith and Wesson M&P line of pistols.
The Apex Ultimate Drop In Striker Block Kit.
This kit will includes one of each of the following:
A) Apex Ultimate Drop In Striker Block - Made from ultra durable, heat treated and polished17-4 Stainless Steel. The Advanced Striker Block was engineered to produce a smoother trigger uptake as well as improve felt trigger reset in the S&W M&P pistol.
B) Apex Striker Block Spring - Engineered with 20% reduced power to yield smoother and easier movement of the Striker Block while maintaining the critical safety values already in place. The reduction in spring weight allows for less interfearance from the Striker Block while the trigger is resetting.
Bonus:
Talon Tactical Rear sight tool - Designed to provide the at home gunsmith with the ability to easily remove and install their rear sight as well as keep the striker block plate in place without the need for a 3rd hand.
This kit works in all M&P pistol models.
The production run has officially begun as of today. We're expecting to have the production parts in hand within the next couple of weeks.
As soon as the production parts are in stock, we'll have them available on our online shopping cart at Zen Cart!, The Art of E-commerce
Stay Tuned.
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02-01-2010, 08:39 PM
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Great news! Will Randy be making another how-to video for this part? When installing the sear, it was really helpful to just follow along with his video on my iPhone.
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02-01-2010, 08:42 PM
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Yes, there will be an instructional video on these too. The Talon Tactical Tool will help a lot for the DIY'ers out there.
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02-01-2010, 09:40 PM
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Soon as I can get to the home P/C
I'll be whistling up one of these too!
THANKS!
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02-02-2010, 05:00 AM
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Sorry?
I just can't resist!
Are we there yet?
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02-02-2010, 12:43 PM
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Sorry?
I just can't resist!
Are we there yet?
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"No little Timmy, we're not there yet......Hold on to yer britches"
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02-03-2010, 08:38 AM
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I'm looking forward to seeing these parts. The Apex sear is very well designed and I would be shocked if the striker block was not the same quality.
I'm glad you all like my little sight tool.
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02-03-2010, 12:30 PM
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Thanks Mike.
We certainly do like your tools, they're simple and do the job perfectly.
You've got an email from us about your tools.
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02-05-2010, 12:21 AM
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Looks good!
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02-06-2010, 08:35 PM
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Is there any way to have a guess at the "typical" reduction in trigger pull weight the lower powered spring/block set up (by itself, no Apex sear) might net? The tool addition to the kit is a nice touch, BTW.
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02-06-2010, 09:06 PM
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The reduction in trigger pull won't be much. The installation of the Ultimate Striker Block is intended to smooth the uptake before the trigger bar engages the sear as well as smooth and enhance felt trigger reset.
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02-07-2010, 12:05 AM
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A reduction in trigger "pull" isn't what the gun needs.
What it does need, are all the issues being addressed by Apex.
5 to 8 pounds of D/A like trigger pull are plenty light (trust me!).
Can't wait!
Thanks folks!
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02-07-2010, 11:40 AM
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Not wanting to tinkle on anyone’s parade. Using non OEM parts or modification of those parts nullifies the S&W life time warranty???
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02-07-2010, 12:08 PM
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Thank you Flork, makes sense. One of my M&Ps already has a Burwell action that included a domed factory FP block, was wondering if the 20% reduction of the spring would make any additional difference.
Spotted dog, the 5-8 pound trigger may be fine for a lot of people. For what I use mine for, the 4 that Mr. Burwell left it with is fine...okay, maybe a bit less would be okay, too, especially with a better reset. That's why I was wondering about the parts.
I shoot around some guys that have what I think are CRAZY 2 pound or less triggers on IPSC raceguns. They think 4 pound triggers on 1911s are horrendous. I think it depends on what you are doing with the gun.
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02-08-2010, 09:18 AM
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Please design and make a durable tool steel striker.
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02-08-2010, 11:58 AM
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We're already working on that. Thanks for the suggestion though.
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02-25-2010, 05:20 PM
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The Striker Blocks are in and ready to ship.
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02-25-2010, 05:44 PM
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Just ordered mine! Will you all be posting a video on how to do this soon? I've never changed this part before, and the video for the sear really helped with its install.
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yep, we're gonna be taping today and I'll get it edited and up ASAP.
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03-01-2010, 11:30 PM
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Just got mine in today, and just found the install video on youtube, so I'll be doing the install tomorrow. I'll report back tomorrow on how it goes.
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I just did the install tonight, and it went pretty smooth. Getting the rear sight out was a pain, because that stock sight was really in there good and sure didn't want to come out. Once out, it was a quick and easy install. The only thing I have to say about this kit is WOW! Paired up with the Apex sear that I had previously installed, my M&P's trigger is as smooth as a fine bourbon! There's no more crunchy takeup, the break is smooth and clean, and the reset is very noticeable. I highly recommend this kit, especially if you already have the Apex sear or plan on getting it.
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Flork~I believe I've talked to you on the INGO boards too, have you guys got an idea when the "Duty" sears will be coming out. If I remember right you were working on these to smooth the operation but not reduce the pull weight of the trigger. I'm undecided on which kit I want so I'll probably wait until I hear some feedback on the duty version. Great job getting the striker block kit's out on the market, I'll be looking into one of those real soon.
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03-03-2010, 01:12 PM
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We're not planning to release a direct factory replacement sear for the M&P. Others are making a direct factory replacement sear.
We're on the verge of releasing the Apex Duty Action Enhancement Kit for the M&P. This kit will include the following:
1 Apex Hard Sear (standard or 45 model)
1 Apex Ultimate Striker Block
1 Apex Ultimate Striker Block Spring
1 Apex Heavy Duty Sear Spring
1 Apex Heavy Duty Trigger Return Spring
1 Talon Tactical Rear Sight Installation Tool.
The Apex Duty Action Enhancement Kit is a DIY drop in kit that will produce a 5.5 to 6lb trigger pull that is perfect for Everyday Carry, Home Defense, Duty and Tactical applications.
The Apex Duty Action Enhancement Kit was engineered to smooth initial trigger up take and striker release while maintaining plenty of sear engagement to guarantee safety. Trigger reset is reduced and over travel is limited to produce the best drop in action enhancement on the market today.
This kit will retail for less than $70 when it is released within the next couple of weeks.
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Quote:
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We're on the verge of releasing the Apex Duty Action Enhancement Kit for the M&P.
The Apex Duty Action Enhancement Kit is a DIY drop in kit that will produce a 5.5 to 6lb trigger pull that is perfect for Everyday Carry, Home Defense, Duty and Tactical applications.
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Awesome. Many are looking forward to this exact combination of items.
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03-03-2010, 08:02 PM
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Awesome. We've had a lot of inquiries about this package, it's just taken us a while to get the necessary parts engineered, tested and manufactured.
The final production parts will be in soon and we'll have them available ASAP.
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03-03-2010, 09:18 PM
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Is the Apex Duty Action Enhancement Kit ok to install for IDPA and USPSA matches?
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03-04-2010, 12:11 AM
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Yes, it absolutely is. I'm planning to set mine up with a 4lb trigger for IDPA/IPSC.
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I am assuming that the springs will be available separately for those of us that already have your awesome sear and striker block? Any update on time frame for these springs?
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Installation?
Is there a Smith here who will do all these installations and other tuning on my M&P 45 mid size?
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The install for the sear is really so simple that unless the smith lives next door to you, it's not worth the trouble to look him up. Apex has a video on their site that shows how to do it. Basically, you need an 1/8" and a 1/16" pin punch, a small hammer, and about 15-20 minutes of time. (The video runs 7 minutes. )
A couple things the video did not mention, but should - though anyone can see it if they look. First, the assembly that holds the sear actually fits into a keyway in the frame - keep an eye open for it. Second, the trigger bar projects back into this assembly, and must be in place BEFORE it is eased back into its slot in the frame. Of course the ejector can fall free while you are doing this. It's a little awkward, but easy enough if you have a little patience and just think about what you're trying to do.
Be careful not to bend the trigger bar by forcing things that are not properly lined up. (The video does mention this, so it must happen now and then.)
He mentions checking function of the gun with a snap cap, which is good, but I would only load a couple rounds in the magazine until you have tested the gun enough to know it is safe.
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Yes, the spring kit will be offered as a separate package. That package will be available within the next week.
We are offering a service to install the USB kit into your slide for $25 plus shipping. As for the Sear, it would cost more than 3 times the cost of the parts kit for over night shipping.
My recommendation would be to find a local armorer or smith that is willing to throw them in for you. Install is very simple and easy to follow on our instructional videos at YouTube - apextactical's Channel
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Oh man....It's been a heck of a day....we got the Trigger Bar Springs in and they're all packed and ready to go.
Our Duty/Carry Action Enhancement kits are on our web-store. The kit includes our sear, striker block and spring, duty rate trigger return and sear springs.
The combination should yield a pretty nice carry trigger.
For those who already have our sear and USB, we will have the spring only kits up in the next day or so. We are attempting to reconfigure our shopping cart to allow for parcel post shipping.
If you absolutely cannot wait for the shopping cart, email us at [email protected] We (to be read LISA) will be processing the spring kits manually until the shopping cart is set up.
Remember, be nice to Lisa in your emails. She has lumps of coal for the naughty ones.
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I ordered a Duty/Carry Action Enhancement Kit for my M&P9 on 10 March.
Looking forward to trying it out!
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MrMark,
Your parts should arrive today, if not Monday.
I've got the raw footage for the install video, I just need to edit the snot out of it and post it. I should have it done by Monday.
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Today it was, and from the west coast to the east coast!
Wow, that was fast!
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03-13-2010, 04:35 PM
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Awesome. Gotta love the USPS.
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on the spring kit.
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Thank you for making these items Scott!
Nice job from what it sounds like here, TFL, THR, and Glocktalk, many people are recommending your upgrades for the M&P.
I have decided to get a M&P 9 and 9c because of this offering.
I wonder how we can get this moved to the M&P sub-forum?
Maybe it could be "sticky" to the top.
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Hey guys,
The install video for the DCAEK is up on our Youtube. I'm posting a link in the following thread.
Apex M&P Parts
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Hi Flork,
When will the APEX M&P Duty/Carry Action Enhancement Kit (DCAEK)
be back in stock for sale.
Thx, seabass (aka. Triad bro)
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The USB's are scheduled to arrive today, if they do, they'll be back up on our site today. If not, tomorrow.
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The USB's are scheduled to arrive today, if they do, they'll be back up on our site today. If not, tomorrow.
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Just a few question for you. I just recently picked up a M&P9 pro for shooting Production in USPSA. If I were to get both the USB and Hard Sear, would this interfere with any trigger work I may get done by a smith later, make it smoother trigger, or Would I not really need a trigger work done? Also if it works with a smith trigger job, should I wait till after I get the trigger work done before installing these pieces or should I install them then hand it to the smith to retune the trigger. I'm looking at getting to compitition pull weights -/+ 2.5 lbs.
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Docmedic,
Welcome to the forum.
Our parts will generally be sufficient as a drop in trigger job. However, if you choose to get work done on your gun by a smith, our parts are perfectly suited for that application.
We have a competition spring kit on the way tat puts the trigger pull right at about 2.5lbs as a drop in kit. If you wanted to get the Sear and USB now the Spring kit itself will be available separately as soon as we have them. We're porbably looking at 3-4 weeks for the competition springs to come in.
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Docmedic,
Welcome to the forum.
Our parts will generally be sufficient as a drop in trigger job. However, if you choose to get work done on your gun by a smith, our parts are perfectly suited for that application.
We have a competition spring kit on the way tat puts the trigger pull right at about 2.5lbs as a drop in kit. If you wanted to get the Sear and USB now the Spring kit itself will be available separately as soon as we have them. We're porbably looking at 3-4 weeks for the competition springs to come in.
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Sweet, thanks for the timely response. I'll go ahead and Order the USB and sear then, and wait for the spring to come in.
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