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Welcome Shotout and thanks for the link. After seeing one I'm kinda glad mine doesn't have the extended sight.
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I also own a M46 with the serial no. 45427, my books don't tell me much about it other then its in really nice shape and shoots great still. I believe around 1963 but I can Not verify that myself. I use it about once a month just to keep it running good or if my 1958 m41 gets sick which is extremly rare to have happen.
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I am looking to purchase a used 1989 model 41! Did this model year have any issues? Is it worth the 900 bucks? Everything I read says yes .
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I am looking to purchase a used 1989 model 41! Did this model year have any issues? Is it worth the 900 bucks? Everything I read says yes .
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Hi, I have a Model 41 .22LR 7in barrel with an SN of A1825**. Does anyone know what the manufacturing date or year?
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Hi, I have a Model 41 .22LR 7in barrel with an SN of A182514. Does anyone know what the manufacturing date or year?
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Did you look at post #3 of this thread? If you want the exact date it was shipped, you'll need to request a letter from Mr. Jinks.
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Hi, I have a Model 41 .22LR 7in barrel with an SN of A182514. Does anyone know what the manufacturing date or year?
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I'm pretty sure you DON'T want to spend the money for a archive letter, as I wouldn't either. Some of us have a copy of the Standard Catalog of S&W with serial# tables in the book. Based on your serial# the book indicates it was probably shipped sometime in the 1973-74 time frame. Hope this helps.
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I'm pretty sure you DON'T want to spend the money for a archive letter, as I wouldn't either. Some of us have a copy of the Standard Catalog of S&W with serial# tables in the book. Based on your serial# the book indicates it was probably shipped sometime in the 1973-74 time frame. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the help and you're right I don't want to spend the money on an archive letter. Do you have any idea how much these are going for? I have access to bluebookgunvalues.com, and they show with a grade of 98% $1000 and add 15%-40% for early variations with cocking indicator (disc. 1978).
I just have no idea if that would be considered a fair marked value for this pistol.
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Thanks for the help and you're right I don't want to spend the money on an archive letter. Do you have any idea how much these are going for? I have access to bluebookgunvalues.com, and they show with a grade of 98% $1000 and add 15%-40% for early variations with cocking indicator (disc. 1978).
I just have no idea if that would be considered a fair marked value for this pistol.
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I would suggest you start a new thread and post some pic's. The Model 41 is very popular and the earlier ones like you have that have the nicer finish and cocking indicator go for some good money. Once you establish a price you can sell it here in the Forum classified section.
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Any M41 Posted in our Sell it section does Not last very Long at all especially from that vintage.
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It is tough to find just the serial number dates for Model 41 pistols.
I have 40376 (7.3/8 and field barrels) and 110476 (7.3/8)
I don't need letters. Just curious for accurate dates.
Is there some reason S&W is so stingy on a date list?
I mean this is a pathetic list for the early guns. Is there a better one?
Serial #___ Date of Mfg.
104XX_______ 1958
149XX_______ 1959
189XX_______ 1959
295XX_______ 1960
1120XX______ 1969
114XXX____ ~ 1969
"A" Prefix_____ 1970 with A115001
A145801_____ 1972
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I am looking at a 41 coming up in an auction in a couple weeks. The serial number is TBY 1672. Anyone know the birth year?
Is there anything in particular to look out for with this model when buying used?
Looks like I will spend a lot of rainy days rummaging around this site. So far all I have seen is very helpful, enthusiastic people.
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Serial Number Help Please?
My Standard Catalog doesn't seem to be that helpful with the date of manufacture of my just-acquired Model 41. (Maybe my book isn't the latest edition.)
The serial number is UAK32XX.
Can anyone assist please?
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From post #3
Here is what they have posted over at RimFireCentral.com
"Here is a Summary of S&W M41 Dates of Manufacture from this Thread:
Serial #___ Date of Mfg.
104XX_______ 1958
149XX_______ 1959
189XX_______ 1959
295XX_______ 1960
1120XX______ 1969
114XXX____ ~ 1969
"A" Prefix_____ 1970 with A115001
A145801_____ 1972
A225XXX_____ 1973
A235001_____ 1974
A265001_____ 1975
A295001_____ 1976
A414XXX_____ 1977"
Does anyone know if there are supposed to be starting or ending numbers?
I do know Mod 41 S/N A1948xx shipped in August 1973
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My Standard Catalog doesn't seem to be that helpful with the date of manufacture of my just-acquired Model 41. (Maybe my book isn't the latest edition.)
The serial number is UAK32XX.
Can anyone assist please?
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According to the label on your box 6365 = December 31, 1996
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According to the label on your box 6365 = December 31, 1996
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Thank you. Much appreciated.
I didn't realize that info was coded in the label. Off to do more research...
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Question: My model 41 bears serial A631512. Date of manufacture?
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My model 17-4 bears serial 25K4726. Date of manufacture?
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Resurrecting old thread with a question
I am a new member.
I have access to a Model 41 with the serial 9169. I was wondering how old it was and any other pertinent information. The barrel appears to have compensation venting.
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I was wondering if anyone could do me a favor if they have the book and look up a Smith and Wesson Model 41 serial # A643119 for date.
TIA.
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I was wondering if anyone could do me a favor if they have the book and look up a Smith and Wesson Model 41 serial # A643119 for date.
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Number A631324 shipped in February 1981. It’s likely yours was shipped a little later in 1981
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Model 41 Serial number
Just picked up a older 41 and the serial number is TAF4613.
I can not find anything Like it online.
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Just picked up a older 41 and the serial number is TAF4613.
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My 1965 sn#73590 in as new condition. I've never fired it and shows no signs of ever being fired.
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How strange. Mine is out of the early 1970s and I haven't fired it since this time last week.
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Not really strange as there was much more to the story and I wasn't going to shoot it until my investigation was complete. That being said I do indeed plan on shooting it now.
I bought this from an estate consignment. The magazines, Olympic weights, and tools were unopened. The original owners manual untouched was for the .22 short model. Also had the aluminum top similar to the .22 short model with the barrel marked .22LR. I verified a magazine and chamber that it was indeed .22LR and not short like the 41-1 made for the IRF competition. This all mystified me somewhat because it was more or less setup and with accessories like the 41-1 with owners manual also stating that. So I requested a letter which showed nothing special or unicorn like other than the $64 selling price lol. So as Paul Harvey would say "and now you know the rest of the story".
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Sorry for bringing up this thread again - I'd appreciate any input on the production year of the attached shown Model 41 in .22 lr with serial 21723 - would this make it a 1959 one?
The other one is a Model 41-1 in .22 short with serial A135129, therefore not sure if the already showed chart would also apply for it too, or if it is only for Model 41? If yes, would it rather be a 1970 or a 1971 made?
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Promo, that's quite an entrance. Welcome to the forum. Can you tell us more about the silencer on the Model 41?
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That is a Parker-Hale silencer. The pistol has a British firing proof too, the former owner bought it years back in a British auction, he didn‘t understand what suppressor referred to .
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Very cool. I'd love to see some close-ups of the silencer and the proof marks. These guns shipped out of sequence but I think this one probably shipped in the early 1960s.
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Smith & Wesson did not produce or ship products in serial number order. As a pistol moved through the manufacturing process, at each station no attention was made to which serial number was being worked on, just pick up another frame and do your job. It was the same in shipping. Pull the require pistols to fill the order and only when the invoice was made out were the serial numbers recorded. For example, the invoice that includes my M41 has ten pistols from #12112 to #18968 all shipped on the same day.
The “table” in other posts is only a list of partial serial numbers and the year that particular individual pistol was shipped. It is not a list of starting and ending serial numbers for a year. It was dropped in the 3rd edition of the Standard Catalog of S&W probably because it was too confusing.
I know of a M41 with a higher number than yours that dates to September 1959 and a lower number that dates to April 1962. My best guess is that #21723 shipped from S&W in mid 1961.
Sorry for the long and inconclusive answer but you will have to shell out $100 for a historical letter if you want an accurate answer.
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The other one is a Model 41-1 in .22 short with serial A135129, therefore not sure if the already showed chart would also apply for it too, or if it is only for Model 41? If yes, would it rather be a 1970 or a 1971 made?
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Very nice. Shipped should be around 1971. Notice the box, it's still the pre Bangor Punta box type.
Some may say it's incorrect for a 1971 41, however S&W were still using these boxes on the 41 into the early 70s.
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Here is what they have posted over at RimFireCentral.com
"Here is a Summary of S&W M41 Dates of Manufacture from this Thread:
Serial #___ Date of Mfg.
104XX_______ 1958
149XX_______ 1959
189XX_______ 1959
295XX_______ 1960
1120XX______ 1969
114XXX____ ~ 1969
"A" Prefix_____ 1970 with A115001
A145801_____ 1972
A225XXX_____ 1973
A235001_____ 1974
A265001_____ 1975
A295001_____ 1976
A414XXX_____ 1977"
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I have asked before about this list and never got an answer; Are those supposed to be the beginning or ending numbers for each year. I suppose they could even be random S/N's from each year. My guess is that they are supposed to be ending numbers as My A194xxx is from August of 1973
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I have asked before about this list and never got an answer; Are those supposed to be the beginning or ending numbers for each year. I suppose they could even be random S/N's from each year. My guess is that they are supposed to be ending numbers as My A194xxx is from August of 1973
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Yes, this list is a random selection of model 41’s with a partial serial number and the year that pistol was shipped. I consider this to be confusing and misleading. It was dropped from the 3rd edition of The Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson.
As a member if the SWCA, PM first-model and ask him for assistance in gaining access to the databases. He was very helpful to me at the last Symposium in Phoenix.
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I have a 7 inch Model 41 with the serial number A40509, that would mean it was made in 77 correct?
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I used to own A40518 which was a NIB Model 41-1 22 Short. It had the original box and the 22 Short Instruction Sheet. However, it lettered as a 22 Long Rifle. Roy said it was a double numbered gun and was just recorded as a 22 LR. Who knows?
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For the record my serial # 3065 was made the first year (1957) but shipped in Feb 1958 . I wonder if any were shipped the first year ?
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Don't forget the Tool Room models. Here are T1004, T1005 and T1007. They were all made in 1956. All three were sent out as Club Guns to employees of Smith & Wesson in the 1970's.
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From post #3
Here is what they have posted over at RimFireCentral.com
"Here is a Summary of S&W M41 Dates of Manufacture from this Thread:
Serial #___ Date of Mfg.
104XX_______ 1958
149XX_______ 1959
189XX_______ 1959
295XX_______ 1960
1120XX______ 1969
114XXX____ ~ 1969
"A" Prefix_____ 1970 with A115001
A145801_____ 1972
A225XXX_____ 1973
A235001_____ 1974
A265001_____ 1975
A295001_____ 1976
A414XXX_____ 1977"
Does anyone know if there are supposed to be starting or ending numbers?
I do know Mod 41 S/N A1948xx shipped in August 1973
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I believe these are random numbers put together as a guide. A reasonable guide too.
Guns were not shipped in order, far from it so a start and stop number for each year is impossible.
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About serial numbers has anyone here ever observed a Model 41 with the serial number on the RIGHT SIDE ?
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S&W model 41 Lew Horton Special Edition 22LR
Looking for any information on the above Lew Horton Special. Documents reflect Smith sent less than 10 Performance Center M41’s to Horton in July 1998 to create LH Special Edition. Lew Horton says they received 12. Horton engraved in script Performance Center Classic Series in gold on the right side of the frame.The guns have other upgrades also. I have the documents from Smith and Horton in support of the above information. Performance Center Product Code 170108 10 Mfg.
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Looking for any information on the above Lew Horton Special. Documents reflect Smith sent less than 10 Performance Center M41’s to Horton in July 1998 to create LH Special Edition. Lew Horton says they received 12. Horton engraved in script Performance Center Classic Series in gold on the right side of the frame.The guns have other upgrades also. I have the documents from Smith and Horton in support of the above information. Performance Center Product Code 170108 10 Mfg.
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Yes you are correct. These are briefly mentioned in the standard catalogue in the PC section. Do you have information to add. Please do
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