1911 Barrel Bushing to Barrel Clearance

Duke Aquaro

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I have read many posts about barrel bushings. (on many forums) They talk about bushing to slide fit and bushing to barrel fit, but I have yet to find anything that states what the clearance should be between the bushing and the barrel. The opinions on slide fit vary from "you should need to use a bushing wrench to dissasemble the gun", to " you should not have to use a bushing wrench...." Is there a definative answer? Is there a common value for ALL 1911's or does this vary from one manufacturer to another? Thanks.
 
Not a gunsmith, but I have tinkered with 1911s for most of my life. I like a bushing that fits the slide tightly enough that you can't disassemble the gun without a wrench. As for barrel clearance, I heard a rule of thumb years ago, 0.0005" for a match gun and 0.001" for a duty gun. I have fitted several bushings using this recommendation and can't say I have seen much difference. Based on my limited experience, I think it's way more important to get back end of the barrel like it should be than agonize about a few tenths at the front, either with the bushing/slide or barrel/bushing fit.
 
Thanks for the replys.

I am mesmerized by this subject. I am going to keep researching the bushing clearance issue. I have a 1911 that just about falls apart when you look at it, yet shoots great groups. I also have a 52-2 that has an adjustable bushing. It comes with a spanner wrench to tighten and loosen the barrell bushing. Needless to say, the 52-2 is amazing to shoot. In either case, they both pretty much shoot better than me!
 
The first question you have to ask yourself is "How do I use the weapon?" of maybe "What do I really expect from it?" Hint: the model 52 was intended to group within a pistol X ring at 50 yards in competition. Whether or not you can is another story.

If you're someone who demands accuracy, a bushing that is a tight fit to both slide and barrel is part-but only part- of maximizing accuracy. Quite frankly, the fit of the barrel to the slide is the most important part of the process since the sights are attached to the slide. However, requiring a wrench to remove the bushing can be a really bad thing under field conditions. If you lose the wrench, you're SOL for field stripping. You're also compromising reliability in unfavorable environmental conditions like dust, mud and fouling from extensive firing without cleaning/lack of lubrication.

Various other designs have eliminated the barrel bushing, at least as a part of weapon disassembly. So long as the barrel has reasonable tolerances at the breech end, spring tension will cause the muzzle to return to an reasonably repeatable position for acceptable (if not outstanding) accuracy.
 
. . . They talk about bushing to slide fit and bushing to barrel fit, but I have yet to find anything that states what the clearance should be between the bushing and the barrel. The opinions on slide fit vary from "you should need to use a bushing wrench to dissasemble the gun", to " you should not have to use a bushing wrench...."
The tolerance spec's are tied back to to use of the 1911. If it's a duty gun, then snug is fine. In a law enforcement/personal defense emergency, it's not likely that the user will have time to default to a field strip to deal with a malfunction. They will have go on to other available guns.

The bushing to barrel fit is a moderate accuracy getter. On a match gun, it needs to be closely fitted. Some barrels will shoot better with a loose fit bushing; it happens.

A tight bushing to slide fit will get a little more accuracy. On a match gun, the need to use a wrench is not a hindrance.

The muzzle end isn't the big accuracy end; its the careful fitting in the area of the chamber, hood, feet, etc. Dependability, even for a match gun, can get trashed by striving for the n'th degree of tightness at the muzzle.
 
I am mesmerized by this subject. I am going to keep researching the bushing clearance issue. I have a 1911 that just about falls apart when you look at it, yet shoots great groups. I also have a 52-2 that has an adjustable bushing. It comes with a spanner wrench to tighten and loosen the barrell bushing...

I can recall being "mesmerized" by certain things when I was a young man (not firearms) so I am a bit confused this would be so fascinating to you. :D

The bushing on your Model 52 is not adjustable, per se. Moving it slightly in or out of the slide is not likely to accomplish much. If you move it out far enough, it could be a problem, but surely no one would do that. The wrench is generally superfluous and most 52 bushings I have seen can be screwed out with ordinary finger pressure if you just depress the plunger with the tip of a knife blade, or something like that. I have never heard of anyone thinking they were "adjusting" it.

The bottom line with the 1911 is how does the gun shoot? If your gun shoots well, I would not tamper with it. Mechanical fitting of the barrel and bushing is only one thing in the accuracy equation, so it is not surprising a gun could shoot very well with a bushing that can be easily removed. It's probably a waste of time to think too much about this. ;)
 
The question is really about the 1911. The 52 shoots winning groups. I don't try to adjust the barrel bushing on the 52. I snug it with the Smith and Wesson spanner wrench that came with the gun originally, so I am gussing it needs to be a little snug as you may have to turn it slightly from snug to get the spring loaded plunger to engage the serrations in the bushing crown. the 1911 is another story all together.
 
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