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Old 05-05-2012, 03:13 PM
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There is a no-reserve auction on gunbroker that is going a little crazy for a first year production (1989) 1006.

Smith & Wesson 1006 SCARCE 10mm w 2 Mags 1989 NR : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com

The serial number is TFJ1016.

Does a first year production add any real value to the 1006?

My 1006 I picked up a couple months ago for $550 with original box and (2) mags (with yellow followers), has serial number TET21xx does this make is a first production year gun?

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Old 05-05-2012, 04:37 PM
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IMHO, a 1st year production 1006 doesn't mean squat, especially without box or paper. It does look clean in the photos, but nothing super.

I picked mine up in late '08 or early '09 w/Novak sights instead of adjustable. As for me, I've seen far more 1006 pistols with adjustable sights. Hey, maybe my 1006 w/Novaks is worth a $500 premium.

Mine cost me $550 in 99% condition with one magazine, but without box. I considered that, and still do, to be a great price for Southern California. The serial number is TEV12xx and according to my factory letter, the pistol was shipped from the S&W on March 5, 1990.

I've mostly found Gunbroker prices to be, well . . . a little high.
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I saw this too, and really doubt this was a first year production gun made in 1989...the guns were made from 1990-92, and MINE which has a lower serial number was made in 1992. I smell something fishy about this one.
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I have a 1006 TEV0536 and a 1076 TFF9779 both NIB...when were these made according to the serial number?

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I hate to ruin everyone's parade, but I think the reason that gun has a high bid has nothing to do with the year its was made. For a while on Gunbroker it was the only 1006 up for auction, and the price was for a time pretty low. I know because my latest acquisition -a 5904-was up for bid at the same time.
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I hate to ruin everyone's parade, but I think the reason that gun has a high bid has nothing to do with the year its was made. For a while on Gunbroker it was the only 1006 up for auction, and the price was for a time pretty low. I know because my latest acquisition -a 5904-was up for bid at the same time.
Well, if some guy is willing to pay a thousand bucks for the pistol, it's none of my business. Heck, in a way it makes mine more valuable, I guess. But even more important, it makes me look like some kind of sharp-eyed horse trader.
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$1,000.00+ for a used (to any noticeable degree) 1006 is in my opinion insanity. Especially without it being a 100% with box/papers package. Joe/deb is a very saavy seller on gunbroker though. He takes the time to professionally photograph his guns and cleans them up. That is just plain smart because it consistently results in selling prices higher than most other guns in the same league. The better it looks, the higher people are willing to go. Simple common sense, but it does defy logic when you see an ad with a high reserve and pathetic photographs.

I paid $900 recently for a very very clean 1006 and I thought I should probably have my head examined for paying that much, but I admittedly was simply impatient and was willing to pay a few dollars more to have one right now. Normally, I would hold out a bit more.

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I just ordered the "Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson" from Amazon. I believe this has production year to serial number tables - if so I'll answer any serial number questions on this thread when it is delivered.

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My 1006 is TESxxxx and I took delevery March of 1990, the serial numbers was said to have started at TENxxxx.
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A call to Smith & Wesson CS rep last week told me my SN TFB7xxx 1006 was made in 1990, didn't say which month but judging from the other SN's it might be reasonable to guess mid to late '90.
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some moron is making a mint on a smith and wesson 1076 FBI gun

Smith & Wesson 1076 10mm FBI Issue : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com

I can not believe it and I also do not buy that Test Evaluation Unit serial number ****. Sounds like it might just be made up?
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Smith & Wesson 1076 10mm FBI Issue : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com

I can not believe it and I also do not buy that Test Evaluation Unit serial number ****. Sounds like it might just be made up?
You are correct about the TEU not standing for Test and Evaluation Unit even though that is written to be the case in the S&W standard catalog. But the gun is a legitimate test gun from the first shipment that went to the FBI for testing. I have no qualms with the way he has this gun listed. I would like to see the end labels of the box to tell if it is legit but there is no reason to think otherwise.

I should add that two other FBI 1076's with the "TEU" prefix sold a year or so ago for right around $2000 each in seperate auctions. You have to remember that there were only around 250 in this first shipment.

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As for the 1006. The serial numbers did start at TEN, but S&W did NOT ship guns in sequential order. Often guns sat at the factory until ordes were filled. Below is a pic of TEN0038. So it was probably the 38th or so 1006 made but it shipped way later than many other 1006's with later serial numbers. This gun shipped March 1993 to Pacific Flyway of Midvale, UT. As others have posted their March 1990 shipping dates it shows you how much this can vary.

Now, it is hard to say if there something else going on with this gun that made it ship so late. Part of me wonders if this gun was something special that was used as a prototype or held at the factory for some reason or another and thus not released until much later. I have no evidence to support this but you can call it a feeling I have.


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I just ordered the "Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson" from Amazon. I believe this has production year to serial number tables - if so I'll answer any serial number questions on this thread when it is delivered.
The catalog is pretty light on 3rd gen pistols in my opinion, however, I did learn a few things.

1) On modern serial numbers, which I'm guessing 3rd gens fall into, the box label includes a Julian date. My 1006 (TET21xx) has a Julian date of 0071 which is March 12th 1990.

2) All 1006 were produced betwen 1990-1993, however there was a mention that it was marketed in 1989-1990.

3) Serial number prefixes between 1989 - 1993 for all products:
1989: TED
Apr. 1990: TEP - TFA (intro serial number for 1006 TENxxxx)
1989-1990: TFJ1141-TFP0372
1990: TFN
1991: TFR-TFS
1991: THA1016-TVC7046
1993: TZU

I don't know where 1992 falls, maybe there is a typo in the book and the second 1991 listed is suppose to be 1992.

This would mean my 1006 is an April 1990 production, but the Julian date is March... Hmmm.

4) For the 1006 there were 5 product codes, mine is 104800.

104800 = 1990-1991 - 2nd trigger guard, Adjustable sights
105004 = 1990-1991 - 2nd trigger guard, Fixed sights
105005 = 1990-1991 - 2nd trigger guard, Fixed sights (maybe novak?)
108234 = 1992-1993 - 3rd trigger guard, Adjustable sights
108237 = 1992-1993 - 3rd trigger guard, Fixed sights

Serial numbers in this thread:
TFJ1016 = doesn't match the standard catalog.
TEV12xx = April 1990
TEV0536 = April 1990
TFF9779 = doesn't match the standard catalog.
TESxxxx = April 1990
TFB7xxx = doesn't match the standard catalog.

It looks like the standard catalog is incomplete, especially when half the serial numbers in this thread are not included. Maybe I'm reading it wrong.
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I have/have had a couple that S&W gave me the dates to;
TFC 00XX - 6/90
TEV 41XX - 9/90
VAH 04XX - 2/94

Yep, S&W told me 1994.
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I have a 1006 TEV0536 and a 1076 TFF9779 both NIB...when were these made according to the serial number?

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FWIW, I have TEV 0532, product code 104800 and a "Spec order" code 0055 ( or this could be a Julian date I suppose) in my safe, with orig box/factory label, all papers etc. I believe its a 03 or 04/1990 production. It has what appears to be a factory stamped "1" on left side of trigger guard. I looked for years for a lower, earlier "TEN" serial no but never found one other than pictured above. I've seen the factory letters state 1006 production started Feb 1990. They also state that "The "Ten" series were set aside as the numbered handguns" or some such, which I interpret as not sold thru normal distribution channels. Anybody got one ?

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To me, the manufacture date is more important than the shipping date. And by "important", I mean strictly on a nostalgic level. As an example, Dacoontz, if you really have the 38th 1006 to be produced, well that's about as cool as it gets! Even if John Doe received his later made piece first, your's was the first piece made......if that makes any sense. Anyway dacoontz, super cool gun
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Thanks Twin, I agree with what you said above.
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My 1006 is TFB1XXX and it has the numeral "1" stamp on the trigger-guard also. What does it denote ? Thanks, John
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John, check this out.

http:// http://smith-wessonforum.com...006-frame.html
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Thanks for posting but I can`t pull it up. john
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Yeah I don't know what happened but if you search for "stamped T" or something like that, you'll find some info on it. In short, it is a proof stamp that shows it was test fired at the factory.
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Sorry I got your moniker twisted but yes did find the info. Thanks
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dacoontz, I think it's cool that your ten millimeter pistol has a serial number prefix TEN.
It doesn't get any cooler than that.
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My 1006 is s/n TFD86XX. Also with the trigger guard upside down stamped T. S/N TFD is not in either of my SCSW's either.
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I believe the 1006 also came with two different trigger guards. Both were rounded, but one was more elongated than the other. Not sure which came first and when/why the change was made.
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dacoontz, I think it's cool that your ten millimeter pistol has a serial number prefix TEN.
It doesn't get any cooler than that.
Jaymo,

I thought the same thing when I saw it for purchase. At the time, I think I paid $600 for it which seemed about the market at the time. The prices jumped quite a bit just a few months later. I figured it was a bargain regardless of the price because I simply hadn't seen another 1006 or 10mm S&W with the TEN prefix.

It would be cool to find one in each 10mm model with that prefix, if that's even possible.
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