firehawk
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need info on this particular pistol have found one for sale and looks very unique with the decocker. thanks for any info on this one
price on a model 5946 double action with decocker
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I'm fairly certain that you can't get a 5946 from the factory with a decocker. In fact, I'd bet on it.
Now, that's not to say someone didn't send it in and have it converted to DA/SA but I would be very interested in seeing pictures of this particular 5946.
Now, that's not to say someone didn't send it in and have it converted to DA/SA but I would be very interested in seeing pictures of this particular 5946.
Um, let's see if I can get this correctly, inasmuch as I've been known to be wrong. So as to have a de-cocker one must have a mechanism so as to facilitate such. Every pistol I've handled, including those manufactured by Smith & Wesson, integrate the "safety" lever and de-cocking mechanism. The 5946, absent of a safety lever, therefore has no de-cocker.
However, such is not to say the 5946 isn't "safe."
It is a double-action-only pistol, and as such requires an action by its user that causes the pistol's hammer to fully cycle with each shot. That is to say the sidearm must be "cocked" each time its user wishes to discharge a round. The 5946's user must "squeeze the trigger" before a round can be discharged.
Now, what about the "lack of a safety?"
The 5946, like any other modern DA-only (Double Action-only) weapon has a hammer which must have sufficient momentum so as to strike a firing pin that has two "safe" characteristics: the pin itself is shorter than its DA/SA (Double Action/Single Action) counterparts and is constrained by spring whose tension requires a greater, or heavier hammer fall which itself is actuated by a trigger pull rated at twice-to-three-times the typical SA/DA trigger-pull weight, e.g. 12 lb. to 4- or 5- lb. pull.
Secondly (and the reader thought we were done, huh?), the 5946's trigger is severely "bobbed" and, when resting, is seated in an ever-so-slightly recessed position as compared to the surrounding slide-frame's rear.
All of the above then combines to make the 5946 "safe."
Now, the primary reason this writer puts "safe" within quotation marks is because no firearm is ever really safe, or at least shouldn't be regarded as such because that's when people most often find themselves on the wrong side of an unintentional firearm discharge.
Enough said. Now, back to cleaning my firearm, which will be checked yet again for live ammunition.
However, such is not to say the 5946 isn't "safe."
It is a double-action-only pistol, and as such requires an action by its user that causes the pistol's hammer to fully cycle with each shot. That is to say the sidearm must be "cocked" each time its user wishes to discharge a round. The 5946's user must "squeeze the trigger" before a round can be discharged.
Now, what about the "lack of a safety?"
The 5946, like any other modern DA-only (Double Action-only) weapon has a hammer which must have sufficient momentum so as to strike a firing pin that has two "safe" characteristics: the pin itself is shorter than its DA/SA (Double Action/Single Action) counterparts and is constrained by spring whose tension requires a greater, or heavier hammer fall which itself is actuated by a trigger pull rated at twice-to-three-times the typical SA/DA trigger-pull weight, e.g. 12 lb. to 4- or 5- lb. pull.
Secondly (and the reader thought we were done, huh?), the 5946's trigger is severely "bobbed" and, when resting, is seated in an ever-so-slightly recessed position as compared to the surrounding slide-frame's rear.
All of the above then combines to make the 5946 "safe."
Now, the primary reason this writer puts "safe" within quotation marks is because no firearm is ever really safe, or at least shouldn't be regarded as such because that's when people most often find themselves on the wrong side of an unintentional firearm discharge.
Enough said. Now, back to cleaning my firearm, which will be checked yet again for live ammunition.
James&theGiant1911
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the decocker is a sig thing, Smith and Wesson used it in the early 90s. A specific model that came from the factory with it was the 1076. Every decocker SW and Sig for that matter I have seen does not have a slide lever safety but the decocking mechanism is the safety. If someone added it then it is possible that it has a lever safety as well.
James&theGiant1911
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Smith and Wesson decockers are rare, nice find.......
ColbyBruce
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This was my S&W 5946. DAO, no decocker, a NYPD over-run. I sold it along with an Alessi belt holster for $425.00, IIRC. DAO handguns are not in much demand where I live. The gun was heavy, but accurate. The Alessi holster carried the gun well enough to conceal it, but I own several smaller handguns to tote so I sold this one.
No, S&W never made a decocker like Sig. Sig actually knows how to shape a decocker so that is is accessible to the thumb yet does not protrude into one's body when they are carrying the pistol. If S&W knew how to design a decocker lever, I would still own this S&W 1076.
This is what a real decocker should look like. My Sig P225.
No, S&W never made a decocker like Sig. Sig actually knows how to shape a decocker so that is is accessible to the thumb yet does not protrude into one's body when they are carrying the pistol. If S&W knew how to design a decocker lever, I would still own this S&W 1076.
This is what a real decocker should look like. My Sig P225.
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James&theGiant1911
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I have a P228, and I own a Milt Sparks holster for my 1076. Never have ever had any problem with it sticking into my side while carrying it, although I do agree that Sig does make a better decocker.
Of course Milt Sparks are about the BEST holsters you can buy and that might make the difference.
Of course Milt Sparks are about the BEST holsters you can buy and that might make the difference.
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Maybe you're one digit off and it's a 5926, here's a dead auction
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976790926/SMITH_AND_WESSON_5926_S_S_9MM.htm#
There's a member on here who polished theirs but has moved the photos off
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/242919-pimpin-my-old-s-w-5926-pics.html
Lot of info out there for the 5926
http://www.gunsamerica.com/976790926/SMITH_AND_WESSON_5926_S_S_9MM.htm#
There's a member on here who polished theirs but has moved the photos off
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/242919-pimpin-my-old-s-w-5926-pics.html
Lot of info out there for the 5926
ColbyBruce
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Even Astra knew how to design a decocker lever.
My Sig P228 is a true DAO pistol.
I have owned a few Milt Sparks holsters, and currently have a Summer Special for my Colt LW Commander. I have way too much money invested in gun leather.
My Sig P228 is a true DAO pistol.
I have owned a few Milt Sparks holsters, and currently have a Summer Special for my Colt LW Commander. I have way too much money invested in gun leather.
Dot_mdb
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Most holsters for semi-automatic pistols have an extended slide shield that keeps the slide and the various controls from coming into contact with the body. I just bought a Sparks Summer Special 2 for a 3913 that is constructed that way. I also have a High Noon holster for a 457 that I had constructed without the shield. I have no problem with the slide rubbing on my body but I can see where someone with a different body shape might have the problem. I don't see a problem with the way S&W designed the decocker or the lock on the 3rd Gens. In my opinion, the Sigs are not a better design than the S&Ws.
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ColbyBruce
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I own a holster or two, only one has the slide shield. I buy holsters to secure and protect a handgun, not protect me from a poor design on the handgun.
The OP will likely enjoy that pistol, providing he uses a proper holster and belt combo. I would stress, again, not to put much into it as resale is not so great. I came up a few bucks short after selling mine, but then the Alessi holster was costly. Also, well worth the price.
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If it's a 5926 then that would be quite the find.
ColbyBruce
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In all honesty, I would pay no more than $300.00 for it, judging by how long I have seen other DAO S&W models sit in showcases around NE Georgia. On-line auction sites might beg to differ, there have been some crazy prices paid for things lately.
My favorite carry gun is a S&W 3953, a single stack compact DAO pistol. I happen to like the action, slim profile, reasonable weight, and lack of a safety. Many people do not.
If you get it and like it, try some MecGar flush-fit 17 round mags in it.
My favorite carry gun is a S&W 3953, a single stack compact DAO pistol. I happen to like the action, slim profile, reasonable weight, and lack of a safety. Many people do not.
If you get it and like it, try some MecGar flush-fit 17 round mags in it.
James&theGiant1911
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As a general rule DAO sell for several pecans less than the DA/ SA units. Since we are posting pictures then here is my Sig Swiss P228 with some new grips, new Meprolights, and a very good cleaning. Plus I have seen lots of Swiss insignia police stamps but never one from the Ticino district.
The 1076 decocker works great, I never really thought of it as a bad design other than a few cases or peps breaking their thumb pad off, but I am sure Smith sells those all the time.
Picture time.
The 1076 decocker works great, I never really thought of it as a bad design other than a few cases or peps breaking their thumb pad off, but I am sure Smith sells those all the time.
Picture time.
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