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Laser Bore Sighter
I have read through some of the previous posts on this, but still looking for some more info. I understand the pros and cons of using them, I would be interested if anyone has had any experiences good or bad, or has a recommendation, for a laser bore sighter for third gen 9mm.
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Watching this thread...
I only use a bore sighter for my rifles.
I'm interested in a pistol use.
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Just used one to sight in red dot sights on two of my 1911s. Worked like a charm. When I went to the range to verify the sights they were only off by only a small amount (less than an inch of elevation and windage at 50 feet).
My general experience with laser bore sighters is they are great for getting your rifle or pistol on the paper and avoiding wasting ammo and time.
One thing they are not good for is sighting in rifles on bright sunny days. You will not be able to see the laser on the target downrange.
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Just used one to sight in red dot sights on two of my 1911s. Worked like a charm. When I went to the range to verify the sights they were only off by only a small amount (less than an inch of elevation and windage at 50 feet).
My general experience with laser bore sighters is they are great for getting your rifle or pistol on the paper and avoiding wasting ammo and time.
One thing they are not good for is sighting in rifles on bright sunny days. You will not be able to see the laser on the target downrange.
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Thank you, that is good info. I do most of my shooting at the indoor ranges, so sounds like it may be helpful to me. What brand / model did you use that worked well?
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I have a Bushnell Brand myself which I have found to be very good for both Long gun and pistol as well. Mine came with a lot of different sized barrel inserts. Works quite well for around $30.00 at the time.
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I used one for my 629 because of the heavy recoil I opt this method first
I would like it better if they sold a green laser to be seen better in sun light
But this bore sighter gets me on paper very close to bullseye at 25 yards
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Thank you, that is good info. I do most of my shooting at the indoor ranges, so sounds like it may be helpful to me. What brand / model did you use that worked well?
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Its a Cabelas branded unit made by Laserlyte with a green laser. Kryponyte CAB-HULK-140 I think.
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Its a Cabelas branded unit made by Laserlyte with a green laser. Kryponyte CAB-HULK-140 I think.
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Thanks. This will give me a reason to stop off at Cabelas this weekend.
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Watching this thread...
I only use a bore sighter for my rifles.
I'm interested in a pistol use.
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So, after reading as many on line reviews as I could find, decided to go with the Sightmark brand laser bore sighter. After installing a set of new Novak adjustable sights I just received, I used the Sightmark, very easy to use, no work other than putting the batteries in and sliding it into the chamber of my 3913TSW, and went off to the range. The sights were spot on out to 75 feet, no further adjustment was necessary. I give the Sightmark an A+ for ease of use and accuracy.
Relatively small $, and it comes with the batteries and in a nice case.
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For the kind that insert into the muzzle, just be sure to remove it before chambering a round to fire. There are a few pictures in the internet showing a "peeled" barrel from the laser having still been in the barrel on firing.
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For the kind that insert into the muzzle, just be sure to remove it before chambering a round to fire. There are a few pictures in the internet showing a "peeled" barrel from the laser having still been in the barrel on firing.
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Yes, good to know when using one of the other laser bore sighters. Seemed like most of the laser bore sighter models that went into the end of the barrel, I did not care for, for one reason or another. Fortunately, with this particular Sightmark model that inserts into the chamber, it is not possible to chamber a live round with the Sightmark laser bore sighter already in the chamber.
But certainly always best to do a safety inspection of any weapon before live firing to make sure all is in order.
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I've never used one.
How can you tell if the beam is concentric with the bore?
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I've never used one.
How can you tell if the beam is concentric with the bore?
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Will qualify my thoughts I will share by stating that I am not a machinist or mechanical engineer so this is a bit of a guess, but I did a pistol armorer school many many years ago and typically pretty good with mechanical things, and it looks to me like the bore sighter device is machined to fit snugly into the chamber, so I guess it is using the chamber walls to center the device and guide to project the beam down the center of the bore, if that makes sense, probably someone else here on the forum can explain it better. The bottom line is that it worked really well for my 3913TSW.
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Thanks for the answer, 0849!
I guess you are saying there are no adjustments to make and the manufacturer fixes the concentricity to the case body at the factory.
That makes it easy (and I like easy!)
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I've never used one.
How can you tell if the beam is concentric with the bore?
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You can't. As mentioned, the bore site is used to simply get your scope, dot, laser, etc. sights "on paper". Everyone I've looked at or read about says you need to take the gun to the range to sight it in. These are NOT precision devices.
Personally, I think they're a waste of money. How many shots does it take you to get "on paper"? How much does one round cost compared to a bore sight? Put a round down range with support at 7yds. or 25 feet (however your range is marked). If you're not on paper, something is seriously wrong with your ammo, gun or sights.
I take one supported shot at 25' then dial my sights from that hit to the bull's-eye. If it's a pistol, I back up to 50' and repeat. For rifles, I go out to 50 or 100 yards, depending on caliber and sights, and repeat. If you're a hunter or a sniper, you may want to go out more.
I can't remember ever taking more that three shots to sight-in my scopes, dots or lasers. I usually start shooting after the second adjustment. I don't understand why/how folks burn up a magazine or two setting sights. If you're one of them, perhaps a bore sight MIGHT help. But probably not.
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Thanks for the answer, 0849!
I guess you are saying there are no adjustments to make and the manufacturer fixes the concentricity to the case body at the factory.
That makes it easy (and I like easy!)
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Yes, I should have stated that, I do not see any adjustments on it.
I hope the info I posted on the laser bore sighter is helpful. I feel the $29.95 was $ well spent, at least for me.
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Yes, I should have stated that, I do not see any adjustments on it.
I hope the info I posted on the laser bore sighter is helpful. I feel the $29.95 was $ well spent, at least for me.
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Yes, 0849. It is helpful.
As new member Tinhack (welcome to the forum) pointed out, sighting in a firearm should be easy unless "something is seriously wrong with your ammo, gun or sights".
However, in your case, you were verifying that the sights you were installing at the bench were indeed looking at the same place as your barrel was aiming.
Adjusting fixed sights at the range (with hammer and punch) is a pain so having an easy way to get close before you go to the range for live fire testing makes a lot of sense.
While it is not too difficult to remove the bolt and sight through the barrel on a bolt action rifle, we are not afforded the same luxury on semi-auto and lever action rifles and handguns.
$29.95 can save a shooter quite a bit of ammo if the sights or scope mounts are not looking where the barrel is looking and there is just no way to tell that at the bench without a bore sighting device.
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