3913 vs XDE

Wow, who says that the 39xx in any series is the best carry pistol ever?

That would be the 40xx series once you shoot a Hi Power every other 9 pales in comparison. Sorry to rain on your 9 mm 3rd gen love fest but that gun just ain't it. If I made a list of the best 9mms doubt it would be in the top 5. Shoot a PC40 in wheel and semi auto config and then revisit this thread, LOL.

"Best concealed carry auto/9mm" ...... S&W 39xx series .......... combat 9mm = Browning/FN 9mm Hi-Power.............

"Best" 9mm........................ lots of great choices...... purpose???
 
"Best concealed carry auto/9mm" ...... S&W 39xx series .......... combat 9mm = Browning/FN 9mm Hi-Power.............

"Best" 9mm........................ lots of great choices...... purpose???

I could not fit it into my boot, would not work and I have owned a 3913. Too many other micro 9s out there that conceal better. Just few are the

.38/ 357 wheel gun SW
Micro XD 9
Ruger LC9
Kimber Solo II

just to name a few. Actually think I could conceal the Browning Hi Power better than I could the 3913.
 
Just yesterday, I found not one but TWO 3913's in a local pawn shop here in Montana! Too bad I don't have a wheelbarrel load of extra cash!!

Randy

PS. I already have 2......And I still believe that they are the undisputed KING of CONCEALED CARRY!!
 
The Model 3913 is a sweetheart.... Here are some alternate takes:
Model 3953 DAO single stack:
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Model 6906 12 shot TDA/SA:
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And if you have a bit of extra jingle in your pocket and very good luck stumbling on one,
Performance center Model 5906 "PC9" with Briley barrel bushing :
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I have a 6906 which is a great shooter. I've carried it in the past, but I'm more prone to carry a single stack now that I have some. I also have a 3953, which shoots well, but I have yet to carry.

I saw a listing tonight for a 3953TSW at a LGS I've done business with. I think it's over priced, so I probably won't even go up to look at it. OTOH, if it's a pre rail, I might have to go and look at it and see what their cash price is.

It never, ever, ends, does it? :)

The Model 3913 is a sweetheart.... Here are some alternate takes:
Model 3953 DAO single stack:
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Model 6906 12 shot TDA/SA:
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And if you have a bit of extra jingle in your pocket and very good luck stumbling on one,
Performance center Model 5906 "PC9" with Briley barrel bushing :
Model%205906%20PC-9%20PVC%200099_zpsh4vi06zz.jpg
 
No interest in it either really. The XD is too new. Let em work out the bugs, if any. Also no interest in hammer fired. Nothing against it, just no interest in one.
Same goes for the 39XX. Nothing there to get excited over. And if I did go for a single stack it would probably be there PPS

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Many lesser guns get compared to the 3913. None match it, let alone surpass it. From any manufacturer.

The ONLY GUN which matches the 3913s reliability, accuracy, durability, asthetics and ease of carry and concealment is the 3914. Regards 18DAI

Only change I'd make is add the 3953-other than that I'm fine with this post!
 
James,

This is a thread where everyone comes on and espouses their love for a particular pistol. Why rain on the parade?

Actually think I could conceal the Browning Hi Power better than I could the 3913.

You must have an interesting shape. With the Browning's barrel being 1 1/4" longer, an exposed, cocked hammer, and thicker and longer grip, please...enlighten us. How so?
 
I was not unimpressed: I predict a whole Sprinklefield line of XDE-type pistols... Full-sized & Compacts, adjustable grip swells, NO GRIP SAFETY!

Always thought the SIG 2022 was the true affordable "sleeper" (albeit a FULL-SIZED sleeper!) in the SIG catalogue: a poly frame and the SA/DA action up top.

Cheers!

P.S. Who around here really wouldn't consider a SA/DA Shield or a M&P 45acp optics-ready longslide with a hammer and a drop safety?

P.P.S. Absolutely LOVE my wife's 3913, hands down over my buddie's 9mm Shield. Also had to add that the claim that they "re-invented the hammer" is a bit pretentious, IMHO: I believe it was Og the Caveman that 1st re-invented the hammer when he figured out how to mount it on a handle and vastly improved the dynamics! Just ask that cave lion skin hanging on the wall of the cave...?
 
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James,

This is a thread where everyone comes on and espouses their love for a particular pistol. Why rain on the parade?



You must have an interesting shape. With the Browning's barrel being 1 1/4" longer, an exposed, cocked hammer, and thicker and longer grip, please...enlighten us. How so?


The BHP was my first handgun I ever bought. It is my favorite. It is flatter than any 3rd gen 9mm I have seen, and with the commander round anti snag hammer it is not that bad. Plus it has a rest cock position which allows you to cock as you draw the weapon.

I went down this path of the 6906 double stack then a 3913tsw but none of them really fit my hand well and they would not conceal very easily. The SA/DA is nice to use in a conceal but my conceal weapons are all Sigs. A 357 Sig can do so much more than the typical 9mm even in +P. I have a stand 9mm Swiss Sig police gun as well. Smith and Wesson makes an excellent third generation pistol but they are weak sauce compared to the the 40xx series they make. I love my Shorty 40, and compared to the 39xx series it will make you never want to shoot anything else.

I honestly think the 9mm Smiths are just an offering for them to say they make a 9mm. The real advantages of the third generation handguns comes into play once you get into the 40 caliber or even one of their magnificent 10mm units. That is when you really can tell the difference, and what the heavy third generation pistols were made to do.
 
P.S. Who around here really wouldn't consider a SA/DA Shield or a M&P 45acp optics-ready longslide with a hammer and a drop safety?

If S&W hadn't been trying to compete with Gloque, and instead competed with itself, they might have developed a polymer version of their boat-anchor (I say that lovingly) 3rd Gen series. They could have made a polymer 3913, but I can't imagine it would save any weight, only cost.
 
I posted something similar to this a few months ago and was roundly criticized by a couple of members. You made me feel better! ;)

If you think about it though, a polymer framed 3913 would make sense for civilian, if not LE use. Although there are certainly a LOT more polymer framed LE guns made by S&W, Block, and others these days.

If S&W hadn't been trying to compete with Gloque, and instead competed with itself, they might have developed a polymer version of their boat-anchor (I say that lovingly) 3rd Gen series. They could have made a polymer 3913, but I can't imagine it would save any weight, only cost.
 
wow....looks like SA made an HK SP30sks
.....or a P2000sk.....:rolleyes:..I have both but my 3913NL is still on my person daily;);)
 
If S&W hadn't been trying to compete with Gloque, and instead competed with itself, they might have developed a polymer version of their boat-anchor (I say that lovingly) 3rd Gen series. They could have made a polymer 3913, but I can't imagine it would save any weight, only cost.

AMEN TO THAT FRIEND!! TO THIS DAY, I WONDER WHY THE SIGMA??? WHY??? THEY COULD HAVE JUST DONE WHAT YOU SUGGEST! AND KEEP THEIR BOAT ANCHORS IN PRODUCTION FOR THE REST OF US THAT LOVE THEM. SOME THINGS I WILL NEVER COME TO UNDERSTAND, OR COME TO TERMS WITH... AND NO, COST IS SECONDARY. BERETTA, CZ, SIG SAUER, ALL WENT MATTEL, BUT KEPT THEIR METAL GUNS TOO FOR THOSE THAT WANT THEM.
 
James,


You must have an interesting shape. With the Browning's barrel being 1 1/4" longer, an exposed, cocked hammer, and thicker and longer grip, please...enlighten us. How so?

HAHAHAHAHA!!!! WELL, I HAVE BEEN CC A 4506 FOR YEARS. AT 6'2" AND 280 LBS, TO MUCH BEER BELLY TO KNOW THERE ARE 42 OZ OF SPRINGFIELD STAINLESS LURKING IWB! ALL IS POSSIBLE IN THE END!! :)
 
I honestly think the 9mm Smiths are just an offering for them to say they make a 9mm. The real advantages of the third generation handguns comes into play once you get into the 40 caliber or even one of their magnificent 10mm units. That is when you really can tell the difference, and what the heavy third generation pistols were made to do.

HMMM.... YES FRIEND, THE BHP IS A GREAT GUN, BUT WHO CAN ARGUE OTHERWISE FOR ANYTHING THAT CAME FROM MASTERMIND JMB REALLY. HOWEVER, SMITH & WESSON WAS NOT ALWAYS THIS LIBRELAL DOORMAT THAT HAS BECOME IN THE PAST DECADES. JUST A SMALL HISTORY REMINDER FOR THOSE THAT PERHAPS FORGOT AS THE TIME PASSES. FIRST AMERICAN MADE 9MM (M39), FIRST PISTOL TO REPLACE REVOLVERS/FIRST 9MM TO BE ADDOPTED BY POLICE STATE SIDE(M39), FIRST HI CAPACITY (UP TO 30 ROUNDS) DA/SA 9MM WORLDWIDE (1971 M59), FIRST OFFICIAL AMERICAN 9MM WITH THE SEALS (MK22), MOST 9MM MODELS VARIATION THAN ANY OTHER MANUFACTURER AT A POINT, AND MAYBE STILL SO TO THIS DAY. IN ALL FAIRNESS, I THINK, THE 9MM NOMENCLATURE SHOULD BE RENAIMED FROM LUGER & PARABELLUM TO SMITH & WESSON. LOL!!! :)
 
why the all caps shouting?

No certain makers are known for the particular round that they helped to develop.

Luger 9mm
Colt 45
S&W 40 caliber

even to a more recent extent the Sig .357 cambered in 357 Sig.

a necked down 9mm.

This is a basically how it breaks down with the best firearms in each caliber having a certain maker.
 
why the all caps shouting?

No certain makers are known for the particular round that they helped to develop.

Luger 9mm
Colt 45
S&W 40 caliber

even to a more recent extent the Sig .357 cambered in 357 Sig.

a necked down 9mm.

This is a basically how it breaks down with the best firearms in each caliber having a certain maker.

James, how could you leave the glorious .45 GAP off of your list??? It's perfection in a cartridge!

BTW, you eloquently skirted around my question above...;)

I'm just pulling your chain- I'm leaving in 15 to go run some rounds through my HP!
 
AMEN TO THAT FRIEND!! TO THIS DAY, I WONDER WHY THE SIGMA??? WHY??? THEY COULD HAVE JUST DONE WHAT YOU SUGGEST! AND KEEP THEIR BOAT ANCHORS IN PRODUCTION FOR THE REST OF US THAT LOVE THEM. SOME THINGS I WILL NEVER COME TO UNDERSTAND, OR COME TO TERMS WITH... AND NO, COST IS SECONDARY. BERETTA, CZ, SIG SAUER, ALL WENT MATTEL, BUT KEPT THEIR METAL GUNS TOO FOR THOSE THAT WANT THEM.

Beretta just lost their contract so we'll see how long the 92 remains.

CZ is made I a different country with different raw material prices and wages.

Sig is loosing to itself. Many departments are replacing their old P series with the 320 or something else. As orders fall off so may the guns.

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why the all caps shouting?

No certain makers are known for the particular round that they helped to develop.

Luger 9mm
Colt 45
S&W 40 caliber

even to a more recent extent the Sig .357 cambered in 357 Sig.

a necked down 9mm.

This is a basically how it breaks down with the best firearms in each caliber having a certain maker.

ONCE AGAIN, THE CAPITALS ARE DUE TO KEYBOARD ISSUES, SWITCHING TO ENGLISH ONLY HAS CAPITALS.

I AM MISSING YOUR POINT FRIEND. ARE YOU SAYING THAT EACH COMPANY SHOULD BE KNOWN FOR THE CALIBERS THEY INVENTED?
 
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