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Well you do get TTSH all upset ....................
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It's no secret here that I'm a 457 guy -- 457S, to be exact -- and that I shoot it as well as I have any compact .45 including the pre-rail 4513TSW I have and the Shorty 45 I once owned. That's all on me, of course, but I just absolutely love shooting my 457. I do admit that I care about it a bit more than I did the black one I once owned, and it rides in a nice holster in my vehicle, just to keep the scratches off of it. I really need to take some pictures of it one of these days, just to prove that the girl-next-door gun can look pretty good and be a lot of fun to take out!

And yes, 18 is the one who got me interested in the 457 guns in the first place........he's an enabler, he is......
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Well you do get TTSH all upset ....................
Only when he beats me by 10 minutes or so to the very best 3rd Gen deals in the entire state.

Or when he snaps up the highly-desirable premium 3rd Gens when I am too short on cash to even be looking.

Or when he heads up north and wipes out every desirable 3rd Gen mag in the KTP bargain bins.

Or when..........
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Great write up on the 457. I'm loving it's heavier, shinier older brother--the 4516-2.

Are there any functional/mechanical differences between the 457 and 4516/4513? I noticed has the lug on the barrel, which is absent on the CS guns.
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Plastic magazine release, dovetails for the sites are different, finish machining is not quite as good. Oh, plastic recoil guide rod. There are probably some other differences, but I can't think of them off hand.

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Great write up on the 457. I'm loving it's heavier, shinier older brother--the 4516-2.

Are there any functional/mechanical differences between the 457 and 4516/4513? I noticed has the lug on the barrel, which is absent on the CS guns.
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Only when he beats me by 10 minutes or so to the very best 3rd Gen deals in the entire state.

Or when he snaps up the highly-desirable premium 3rd Gens when I am too short on cash to even be looking.

Or when he heads up north and wipes out every desirable 3rd Gen mag in the KTP bargain bins.

Or when..........
Or when I go to SC and plan to stop in a couple of gun stores/pawn shops down there and look for magazines.
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The first 457 I ever stumbled upon was in a pawn shop in 2008 (I was looking for an aluminum framed Colt Commander). I did a little bit of internet research, and then went straight back and bought it. I could not understand how it was so un-appreciated.

I liked it so much that when I came across another one about two years later I bought it as a spare. I gave up looking for a Colt.

These are my two most-carried 45 autos. I have never experienced any kind of a stoppage with either one.

My holster of choice is a Bianchi #5 made for a S&W 4506 (I never could figure out the various S&W semi-auto model numbers).
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MattyD380 the 457 DOES have the locking lug atop the barrel and corresponding cut in the slide.

The early production, blue/black 457s also have forged hammers and triggers and roll marks. They use the same dual recoil springs as the 4516-2 and share mags and grips.Regards 18DAI
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I do have that going for me, true.

An LGS that I have bought some stuff from just put a 457 with two mags up for sale for $299.95. If I wasn't flying to Charlotte tomorrow, I'd definitely go up to take a look.

If it's still there when I get back next week, I'll go for a look see.
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I do have that going for me, true.

An LGS that I have bought some stuff from just put a 457 with two mags up for sale for $299.95. If I wasn't flying to Charlotte tomorrow, I'd definitely go up to take a look.

If it's still there when I get back next week, I'll go for a look see.
I should go up and snag that bargain Model 457... ... just to help even up the score.

Lucky for you, I have a different acquisition target in mind once I pull myself out of this current financial tailspin I'm in.
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I'd only be interested if it were stainless. Which I doubt would be listed at that low a price.


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Lucky for you, I have a different acquisition target in mind once I pull myself out of this current financial tailspin I'm in.
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I dunno. There is something all business like about the all black 457. Here is mine.
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I dunno. There is something all business like about the all black 457...
While stainless is more durable and can be bead blasted to restore, I'm a fan of black weapons especially for carry.

I have a 4513-2 that is very nice and shoots well but when it comes to carry the 457 is the one that goes with me. Besides the black finish, the alloy frame makes for a lighter load.



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I have a 4513-2 the is very nice...
You have more "unique" 3rd Gen models than anyone else I know.
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While stainless is more durable and can be bead blasted to restore, I'm a fan of black weapons especially for carry.
There are handguns I love in "bright" stainless and there are other handguns I prefer in blue/black. While the vast majority of my 3rd Gens are "bright" finished, my three blue/black ones are just as effective and equally treasured.

But then you get into my Sigs, CZs, HKs, Berettas and Rugers and it's exactly the opposite. They are overwhelmingly blue/black! Go figure.

About a billion years ago (or so it seems), I started out collecting mainly S&W stainless steel revolvers. I still have all but one of them. And yet now, the only S&W revolvers I desire are blue, Blue, BLUE! Again, go figure.

I'm just a confused old man I guess.
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My 457 was purchased as a result of the NY Safe act. I like it a lot except I have not found a holster I like and the weight is heavy compared to a M&P Shield or M&P 45C.

In fact, the ease of shooting this gun and my preference for the 3913 (and college tuition for the kids) kept me from adding a M&P Shield at the low prices.

I like the square profile view and snap shot picture it offers. "Like a Block". I love the trigger and have come to prefer it's shape and black profile to rounded 3913's.

PLUS, the 45 ACP rounds STAY in the magazine unlike the 3913 9mm rounds which tend to slip out of the magazines on removal.
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