New tv show, LA's Finest and 3rd gen question
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It's the Self-Hostage Technique, most notably employed by Sheriff Bart in Blazing Saddles.
"Freeze or the babe gets it!"
"She'll do it! She's crazy!"
That being said, granted that IMFDB doesn't have the most flattering pics of her, but I'm disappointed that nobody in this thread has mentioned Jessica's hot partner yet...
I wouldn't mind watching her back.
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Good eye ContinentalOp! I think that observation just made you an expert!!
"A loaded 5906 weighs approx. the same as Jessica Alba. Has to be a 6906." Hilarious, Pete!
I equate shows like this with comic books.
This one's for girls...
This one's for girls...
You can't always expect authentic firearms in TV or movies. Many guns are altered to fit the blank cartridges they use to make slides function like "real" guns. Sometimes that alters the appearance a little, leaving you wondering what you just saw. That does have the appearance of an alloy frame, but if they worked on it for TV use, it may not look completely original.
By the way, I think there's a thread from a few years ago with movie guns as the topic.
Doug M.
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The least important thing about this show if I were to watch it would be Ms. Alba's skill at handling firearms.
Actually LAPD did issue a couple 3rd Gen Smith and Wesson autos. First there is S.I.S. who used to carry 4506s and 4566s they had their own firearms budget and members were issued department owned SWs.
Also there was a recruit class or 2 in the mid or late 90s where the female recruits were issued S/W 3906s , 5 mags and a quad pouch. This was done because of some complaints that female recruits were failing firearms due to the size of the Beretta 92fs grip frame. 14 or 16 guns were issued but I cant remember the actual number. About a year or so after that we checked and only 1 officer was still carrying/qualifying with their issue weapon. The others had changed as soon as they were off probation to private purchase 5906s or 92fs . Mostly because of peer group pressure and the desire to have more ammo in the gun. So that project was dropped. Some years late the guns left over and returned to the armory(because officers left the job etc) were sold to a local distributor. So someone out there owns LAPD issued 3906s, I know a few armorers who bought some of them, 220/230 each.
And just to be real correct there was also 1 /ONE issued 3914. This weapon was issued to a female officer, who was rather well connected to the Dept brass , for reasons that were obvious if you saw her. And due to her terrible back issues, that couldnt have been caused by the extra 2-3 lbs she was wearing up front, and even though she was a LT and her husband was also , I guess they couldnt afford to private purchase a 3913. Even after the armory refused , due to the fact a 3913 did not meet primary duty(issued) weapons rule of a 4" barrel. They showed up with a letter from a Commander or higher that could request special issue weapons, so it was done. Of course we had motor officers practically missing limbs who couldnt get the same treatment, but thats how things work out. Anyway those are the only issued 3rd gens I was ever aware of. There were others used by undercover guys, so they didnt carry the COP issue Beretta, but they were just loan guns so really not issued. Take care.
Also there was a recruit class or 2 in the mid or late 90s where the female recruits were issued S/W 3906s , 5 mags and a quad pouch. This was done because of some complaints that female recruits were failing firearms due to the size of the Beretta 92fs grip frame. 14 or 16 guns were issued but I cant remember the actual number. About a year or so after that we checked and only 1 officer was still carrying/qualifying with their issue weapon. The others had changed as soon as they were off probation to private purchase 5906s or 92fs . Mostly because of peer group pressure and the desire to have more ammo in the gun. So that project was dropped. Some years late the guns left over and returned to the armory(because officers left the job etc) were sold to a local distributor. So someone out there owns LAPD issued 3906s, I know a few armorers who bought some of them, 220/230 each.
And just to be real correct there was also 1 /ONE issued 3914. This weapon was issued to a female officer, who was rather well connected to the Dept brass , for reasons that were obvious if you saw her. And due to her terrible back issues, that couldnt have been caused by the extra 2-3 lbs she was wearing up front, and even though she was a LT and her husband was also , I guess they couldnt afford to private purchase a 3913. Even after the armory refused , due to the fact a 3913 did not meet primary duty(issued) weapons rule of a 4" barrel. They showed up with a letter from a Commander or higher that could request special issue weapons, so it was done. Of course we had motor officers practically missing limbs who couldnt get the same treatment, but thats how things work out. Anyway those are the only issued 3rd gens I was ever aware of. There were others used by undercover guys, so they didnt carry the COP issue Beretta, but they were just loan guns so really not issued. Take care.
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kbm6893
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Ive been watching it. It's garbage but I'll watch it since nothing else is on Monday night. It's not even a Fox show. It ran on some other network and failed so Fox picked it up to fill the COVID void.
I never had an issue with strong women kicking butt. I thought Sarah Connor was awesome in T2. But this woke movement of crowbarring in every political statement just turns me off. A cop who looked like Jessica Alba would NOT be on the street, and if she was, she'd get tossed around like a rag doll if she tried to kick butt.
Nice gun, though. Guess we're all getting old. She's past her prime and trying to hold on for dear life.
Freelancer99
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This is a 6906, unaltered for film use. Comes from the foremost motion picture armory located on the west coast. It was chosen for this character almost entirely on aesthetics. Because she is a petite woman and has to carry this pistol every day a steel full frame would not work, a compact is the choice to avoid appearing too large to handle, and it also has to look different from the pistol her partner carries, for the same reason that they would not be dressed alike. This isn't Southland, this is fashion and nothing more, these characters have to look great on film, period.
Well, there ya go. Thanks for the "inside info." Since you seem to have the connections, can you tell me if they utilize a different gun with those blanks that will cycle the slide if one of them has a scene where she actually fires, or is this original 6906 you spoke of OK for that? My very limited time around a set was many, many years ago during location shooting in CO, so I don't remember the exact details any more. Many thanks for weighing in!
kbm6893
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There's a show called Hollywood Weapons that tests gun scenes from movies to see if you could really "do that"? Like, could a shot from an M1 Garand into a scuba tank blow up a shark like they did in Jaws? So they build a giant shark and put a scuba tank in its mouth and mount it on a dolly and send it towards the shooter To see if it was even possible to hit it much less blow it up. Or could shooting a window in a skyscraper while swinging on a firehouse shatter the glass and allow you to bust though like in Die Hard? It's a fun show if you haven't seen it.
Anyway, one of the guys on the show is the head armorer from the top movie prop house in the country, probably the world. They supply most of the weapons to the movies and tv shows made in this country. The guy, his name is Larry Zanoff, will sometimes point out "this is the Thompson that Tom Hanks carried in Saving Private Ryan". I wonder if they have dozens of 6906's and just grab one or if they know that the one that Alba uses in the show is the same one that was used by Samuel L Jackson in Lakeview Terrace or by the actor in Burn Notice? I'm sure they have a record but I wonder if they're stored that way? I'm sure Hanks' Thompson enjoys a little more prominence than this 6906, though!
Anyway, one of the guys on the show is the head armorer from the top movie prop house in the country, probably the world. They supply most of the weapons to the movies and tv shows made in this country. The guy, his name is Larry Zanoff, will sometimes point out "this is the Thompson that Tom Hanks carried in Saving Private Ryan". I wonder if they have dozens of 6906's and just grab one or if they know that the one that Alba uses in the show is the same one that was used by Samuel L Jackson in Lakeview Terrace or by the actor in Burn Notice? I'm sure they have a record but I wonder if they're stored that way? I'm sure Hanks' Thompson enjoys a little more prominence than this 6906, though!
kbm6893
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Very nice. Jessica at the range with.....Is that a Ruger??
Very nice pic of the Jessica we all fell in love with. Look at that practiced Hollywood come hither look and smile! The gun looks like a Ruger Security Six. Adjustable sights and half underlug.
Freelancer99
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This 6906 like all auto pistols used in film have been been irreversably modified to fire blanks. Basically turned into a direct blowback pistol by cutting off all the locks, the barrel is then threaded and a plug is inserted that allows the firearm to operate reliably on whichever size blank is chosen. Full load blanks are used for the best reliability and when the safety of other actors or camera crew in the scene are not a concern. Half and quarter loads are used to limit excessive noise or when working in tight confines, of course a different size plug is needed to tune this pistol when changing to a smaller blank.
Freelancer99
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The firearms are all stored in their respective departments. Hundreds of Garands living happily together near 03s and Mausers. The Revolver room is what you'd expect, but divided between the Old West, early and mid 20th century and modern stuff. Our 6906 is across the way with auto pistols. The famous guns live with the every day guns, but every serial number is recorded along with every movie and tv show that they go out on, so it's an easy search to see what guns were on what movies.
Larry Vickers did a couple of excellent shows with the general manger of this very place I describe that should be easy to find.
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fiasconva
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Hollywood Weapons is a pretty good show. The last one I watched they tested whether a 12 ga with 00 buck would take an arm off like in one of the movies. It most certainly did.
kbm6893
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Yeah. But some suck. The pirates one and 3 musketeers one, specifically. The Underworld one and Criminal Minds one were the best.
