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So I’m looking at the S&W factory blue box for a model 1066 with the following codes:

Prod. Code 105500, Spec Ord. 0103.

Does anybody know if these codes have any significance above and beyond the codes on a “regular” production M1066?

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The Spec "Ord Code" at that time was Julian date code.
The 1066 was offered from 1990-'92, so code 0103 represents the 103'rd day in 1990.
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I would like to hear some opinions on when and/or why S&W has occasionally chosen to use the Spec. Ord. code for a purpose other than julian date.

They surely have in the past, usually for different odd runs, specials, etc.

Unfortunately, I can't think of a specific example right this moment, but it definitely exists.
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I would like to hear some opinions on when and/or why S&W has occasionally chosen to use the Spec. Ord. code for a purpose other than julian date.
They surely have in the past, usually for different odd runs, specials, etc.
Unfortunately, I can't think of a specific example right this moment, but it definitely exists.
Yes, and that’s why I was asking.

I think I recall S&W using the Spec. Order code for certain L.E. model 3rd Gen guns that were ordered by the Dept. or Agency with “non-regular” modifications, like maybe removal of the mag-disconnect, a special type of finish, or special markings or stampings, or other deletions or additions that depart from what would otherwise be a standard model.

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I think I recall S&W using the Spec. Order code for certain L.E. model 3rd Gen guns that were ordered by the Dept. or Agency with “non-regular” modifications, like maybe removal of the mag-disconnect, a special type of finish, or special markings or stampings, or other deletions or additions that depart from what would otherwise be a standard model.
Here's one example I could think of (and find) quickly.

I can think of (and go look for) many, many others but you are correct, it wasn't a Julian date when it actually was a Spec Ord(er) and usually they could not be mistaken for a date.

Model 559 & 539-559_a7928xx_label-jpg
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Here's one example I could think of (and find) quickly.

I can think of (and go look for) many, many others but you are correct, it wasn't a Julian date when it actually was a Spec Ord(er) and usually they could not be mistaken for a date.

Model 559 & 539-559_a7928xx_label-jpg
Wow! What gun is that?
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Here are a few more.

Label for a Untied States Secret Service commemorative.
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and one for a Virginia Sheriff's Association commemorative.
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and an example of them using that special order number (R567) on an invoice.
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Wow! What gun is that?
Link to the thread.

Model 559 & 539
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Almost always, when the SPEC ORD number is not the Julian date, the FEATURES heading has the word "SPECIAL" there
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Lots of 4 numeric SO codes with xyyy where yyy > 365
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More examples
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I’m a little bit nutty in my own way. I find S&W box end labels to be wildly interesting!
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