tks for that answer,makes sense, my expectations are most likely out of line.

i was looking to pay $330 for sigma, delivered to my ffl,i was considering buying more than one tho.
under $500 for mp.
cant find any at those prices,and am now reluctant to bid due to lack of sales,btw i dont know buds,some auctions slightly less, and my local gun stores are more than that ,and except one, are no fun to deal with.

pat