Hi All,

I recently picked up an older (1960) model 41.

I'm having a few issues with it.

Looking for recommendations for a gunsmith who
is good with this model.

I'm in California, not that is really matters.

Thanks

Hi All,

I recently picked up an older (1960) model 41.

I'm having a few issues with it.

Looking for recommendations for a gunsmith who
is good with this model.

I'm in California, not that is really matters.

Thanks

I live in Virginia, and use Jim Clark Custom Guns. I haven't been disappointed with their work. They did a .45 ACP Hardball for me and a reliability package on my Model 41, I also had them fit a Clark barrel on the M41 also. Saving the factory barrel.

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All things being equal - any reason you wouldn't trust it at S&W for work?

Vito at S&W in Springfield. None better.

Bob

Hi folks new to this group and the owner of a new very old Model 41 and I have discovered some ejection issues not related to the ammo being fired. How does one go about having the folks at S&W repair my new old pistol? I am in Massachusetts so they sure are close. Any idea on how they charge for repairs and how backlogged they might be with these older pistols? Sorry for so many questions.

505 Gibbs - with an older pistol - suggest a detailed cleaning with grips off (obviously broken down) with special attention to firing pin, extractor area, chamber (look for any peening around chamber), mags, and possibly replacing slide spring (age/use). That may be your problem due to crud buildup. Assume you are using CCI std. Vel. or similar ammo

Define your problems and folks here will probably define your solution.

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Ditto on the cleaning, especially behind the extractor hooks and the breach face, maybe put a new recoil spring, also try different brands of ammo, my 1970's 41 has been good but they all seem to be different. Here is a good link to a field striping a 41. Model 41 maintenance Also Tom V I shoot at the range in San Leandro usually on Fridays there are several other people at the range that do as well. Good luck.

Do not discard that the Older Model 41s, had a different slide stop, which delayed the kicking off the shell from the extractor.
Your slide stop will have a very long notch. The newer extractors are much shorter, the shell is kicked off much earlier in the cycle.
Make sure you have the newer style slide stop.

Depends on your shooting ability. Average shooter - S&W Above average - Clark. Either way you will end up with a quality 41.

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I have read this quote more times then I can count. I waited for over a month for MidwayUSA and Numrich to get the Wolff spring kit back into stock. Finally I tracked the company down and they are a 15min drive from where I live. I wanted to drive over and pick a set up but was told it had to be "shipped" to me. I got it today, they advise to start with the strongest spring and work my way down until it feeds correctly. I also got a recoil buffer for my 41 as well because I have read several times it works to smooth out the recoil and eases the recoil on the frame itself. Any opinions? Scott

Thanks much for the information shown in the Model 41 maintenance site. Great information with pictures, just what I needed. Scott

Try to get the CCI SV ammo if you can as well as that's the best food you can feed your new toy. It always works virtually perfect in my old 1958 year m41. Fired it this past Tuesday night at my club and never had any problem out of around 100 rounds at least. Usually never do either.

Smithfan, I have a new (to me) 1959 41; so I should go out and replace my slide stop with a newer version to reduce stovepipes?

Only if you are having lots of stovepipe problems even with the CCI SV ammo, that's when I did mine and it was a big difference which was quite noticeable right away.

I have read your statement several times and go off in search of an "Old" and "New" style slide stop / extractor and the only thing I have ever found is this one.
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The only other one I have read about is a replacement slide stop is the the .22 short model. As near as I can tell there is only one slide stop for the .22 long rifle. Can you give me a link to what you are talking about and where I can get one?? Thanks Scott

I poked around to find the picture, it was taken by Civil1977 and shows the .22 short on the left with the .22 long rifle on the right.
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I am sure if you try to mount the .22 short in the .22 long rifle you will have quite a bit of filing / sanding / buffing to get it to fit and work.

The old units (slide stop/ejector) have the cutout about 1/2" and the newer ones about 3/8" - about 1/8" difference - BUT the cuts may vary 1/16" from piece to piece.

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Thanks so much for jumping in to my question. I was going to PM you as a last resort. I don't want you to ever say "What does he want now!" in a bad way. It makes sense to me the newer style would be the way to go. Kicking the shell out sooner will keep jams to a minum but, where do I get one? Brownells has them in stock but the picture I posted is from their web site and it looks just like the one in my model 41? Again thanks for jumping in. Scott

Clark Custom Guns, Princeton, Louisiana. If you can get it to them and are allowed to get it back, Ca. has a lot of strange restrictions, would be the place.
I have an older model 41 ,factory stock , and a Ruger MKII that has had a Clark trigger job and red dot sight mounted, 12 years ago....they do magical things to triggers . The Ruger now shoots rings around the 41. When I get some extra money I'm sending the 41 to them for trigger work and red dot sight, older eyes can't see irons and their trigger job makes shooting a near religious experience. I bought the Ruger third hand and the first time I shot it I knew that trigger was not factory or done by someone who just replaced a few parts....these guys are something else.
If Ca. forbids your sending it , think about a trip to Louisiana, it would be well wort it!
Gary

Hi Gary, Thanks for the information on Clark Arms. The last owner of my 1967 model 41 had a Clark barrel with suppressor. He kept that and sent it with the original 7 3/8 barrel with the muzzle brake. I went the other way with mine when I kind of fell into a EWK Arms Model 41 Bully Steel Challenge Barrel, Compensated "Generation 2". I just picked up an Ultra Dot scope so, it all may go to them to have that work done. Oh and I am in Pennsylvania. Scott

Before you spend any money do a good field strip cleaning. Make sure the bore is perfectly clean and shiny (the bores pick up lead very easily if fired continually for say 100 rounds). check your mags. Use only FACTORY mags. You can dismantle and clean those as well, and listen to TOM and the other old times. Try first with CCI Standard Velocity ammo. The 41 is not make for bulk .22 or hi power ammo. AussieCollector is one of the big boy experts on the 41's and a good guy.

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