Did S&W ever make these models in DAO?

There are SOOO many model variations.....I can't seem to get Google to give me a definitive answer.


I'd Love to own one.........

(along with a 1086!)

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Gary in Pennsylvania

The DAO model of this is the 3953 in 9mm and in .40 S&W it was the 4053.
I have heard of sending a 3913 to the factory to have it converted, but don't see the point of spending money on a conversion when you can buy a 3953 ready to run.

IMO the .40 S&W in this size gun is a bit much from the standpoint of recoil recovery.

Myron

Thanks......


But that's not quite right according to OP question.

The 3953 is a DAO 3913........but the look of the 3913NL & LS is distinctly different from the plain 3913.

Was there ever a DAO 3913LS or NL???

ANd how do they compare dimensionally to a Sig P239?

Thanks!

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Gary in Pennsylvania

Gary -
You might try a search of the forum for info or pics of the 3953, but to my knowledge there was never a DAO 3913 of any flavor unless it was a gunsmith conversion.
I researched these for months, but the old threads that went back several years on the forum that I found my info in were purged off the forum some months ago.
Can't speak to Sig - don't own one and haven't really looked at them.

Myron

There is a dealer here locally who has a 3913 DAO for sale. I don't know though if it is a 3913NL or 3913LS. When I saw his picture of it, I thought it was a 3953, but it distinctly says "3913" on the side of the frame.

Woodlark -
Could he be mistaken about it being DAO? If it is, it must be a conversion. I looked at the possibility of a conversion because I was having trouble finding a 3953. Finally lucked out and got one.

Myron

Smith made up a batch of 3914 DAOs for New York Ironworks. This was one of the off duty guns authorized for NYPD members.

The 3914 DAO wasn't a NY Ironworks exclusive. Anybody could have ordered one from S&W. I got mine through a dealer in the Bronx, had to wait about 5 weeks for it. I'm guessing the gun really only sold in the NY metro area though because it was made as a NYPD spec off duty. The 3914 DAO is truly a 3914, not a 3954 with a weird designation. I don't know why they just couldn't use the 3954. It's also kind of weird in the world of 3rd Gens as it has second strike capability.

So it could be possible for there to be a 3913 DAO if some *** backwards law enforcement agancy (like the NYPD) so desired such a gun.

You never know what might have been produced as a special order item, or an odd specification for some agency or distributor. Just look at all the oddball special runs of firearms sold through Accusports, Lew Horton, and other distributors.

Myron

I believe the reasoning behind the 3914 DAO was that they wanted 2nd strike capability, so they removed the single action notch from a standard full stroke 3914 action.

The 3954 had the production DAO hammer and trigger that fired only from the half cock position.

That makes sense Kurt, but then why doesn't the 5946 have second strike? Probably no one can give a good answer. That's why I used the term "*** backwards" in my previous post. My department makes a lot of stupid decisions when it comes to guns, like the Glock triggers and the way they absolutely ruined the Sig 226.

But back to the original topic: Yes, given all the special orders I suppose anything is possible.

I ran into a BNIB 3914 DAO at a local shop a few minutes ago. The pistol tag is marked "LE only" and it's been sitting on the shelf at the shop for at least a year. Maybe it's due to the asking price of $689.99. None-the-less it's a sweet looking pistol!

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