What's a screwdriver worth?

How about value updates for S&W "Sight adjustment tools"?

Please reply with the model of screwdriver identified by the years listed below, and how many $$$ one in nice condition brings.

Here's what we said in the 4th Ed:


Thanks - Jim

Jim,
My thoughts below each in {Bold Type}


* 1880 - 1930 - One of the earliest recorded was a screwdriver with a hollow brass handle that contained three or four interchangeable blades, believed to have been used from about 1880 to about 1920. Later production had a knurled nut added to hold the blade in place Value?
{Can't help. Never seen one sell.}


* 1930 - 1941 - Some prewar target revolvers were shipped with a small steel-handled screwdriver. Originals of these have been seen to exchange hands on internet auctions for over $1000. Perhaps as a result of these prices these screwdrivers are being re-produced today using stainless steel handles. The manufacturers have been entirely honest in their aims and descriptions, but unscrupulous resellers may not be. Please ensure the screwdriver you are buying is the genuine article before you purchase.

{I am thinking leave value at $1000. I have not checked ebay for recent sales, but I doubt many will sell much higher than 1000. I may be wrong.}


* 1940 - 1948 - Nickel knurled-handled screwdriver with black oxide shaft, long tapered end and wider blade. Because these (and the following blue steel version below) are most often seen with post WWII guns these are assumed to be post-war screwdrivers. We believe this to be incorrect as these were designed for the first of the micrometer sights fitted to the pre WWII 2nd Model K-22’s. Guide price $100, but seldom seen.
{$200-250}

* 1940 - 1958 - Blued steel knurled-handled screwdriver with black oxide shaft, long tapered end and wider blade. Guide price $100.
{$150-175. REPROS exist!!!}

* 1958 - 1961 - Aluminum knurled-handled screwdriver with black oxide shaft and long tapered end. Guide price $75.
{$150-200}


* 1961 - 1964 - Aluminum fluted-handled screwdriver with flat tapered blade. Guide price $35
{$75-100}


* 1964 - 1988 - Aluminum fluted-handled screwdriver with hollow ground tapered blade. Guide price $10.
{$30-35}

* 1988 - 1991 - Flat steel four-bladed tool for a keychain. Guide price $10.
{I don't know}


* 1991 - onwards - Flat steel two bladed tool for a keychain. Guide price $5.

{I don't know}


WHAT are these?
I have a baggie of these. Have had them between 5 and 20 years. Can't remember where I got them!
Colors:
Light Pink
Dark Pink
Orange
Yellow
Green
The logo is stamped, and then filled with paint.
I only have one or two each of the light pink and yellow, so they must be RARE and Should be worth a substantial premium!

I forgot to say-
One screwdriver was left out. As I recall, it has a full size nickeled knurled handle, and the TINY Pre War tip. It was shipped with Post War TRANSITION Kit Guns that had Pre War sights. There are pics somewhere on this forum.
Can someone point us to them?

Lee,

I haven't seen that SAT but here's a few other rare SATs:

1. Here's a thread showing other versions of that SAT;
http://smith-wessonforum.com/swca-members-forum/177228-22-32-kit-guns.html

This shows Special SAT (on the left) for Post War Transitionals with pre war target sights:



2. Another rare post war SAT for post war transitional pre war target sights on the 1957 issue .32 Reg Police target:
Post-war RPT gift screwdriver
3” SAT Factory modified for pre war sight on 32 RP transitional target:

Photo credit: turnerriver


Photo credit: turnerriver


3. Now forgotten is the S&W logo straight Allen wrench included with both of my adjustable-front sight "silhouette" revolvers.

Silhoutte models

Hondo44 said:

3. Now forgotten is the S&W logo straight Allen wrench included with both of my adjustable-front sight "silhouette" revolvers.

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Do you have a pic of that straight Allen wrench?
All of my Silhouette models came with a right angled Allen wrench!




jcelect

Sorry no, I don’t have them any longer.

I hear tell of the nickel handle circa 1940 (with the K-22 2nd's) fetching $5-600.

I think the pictures Lee's hunting came from RKMesa (Richard Garner).

Ralph Tremaine

handejector said:

I forgot to say-
One screwdriver was left out. As I recall, it has a full size nickeled knurled handle, and the TINY Pre War tip. It was shipped with Post War TRANSITION Kit Guns that had Pre War sights. There are pics somewhere on this forum.
Can someone point us to them?

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Hondo44 said:

Lee,

I haven't seen that SAT but here's a few other rare SATs:

1. Here's a thread showing other versions of that SAT;
http://smith-wessonforum.com/swca-members-forum/177228-22-32-kit-guns.html

This shows Special SAT (on the left) for Post War Transitionals with pre war target sights:

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Jim,
I was going from memory. I think I was wrong and the blue one you show is it.

Hondo44 said:

3. Now forgotten is the S&W logo straight Allen wrench included with both of my adjustable-front sight "silhouette" revolvers.

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How do you turn a tiny straight allen wrench? Why would they make it difficult?

As I recall (and that’s questionable) it was similar to the the last variety SAT flat key chain type S&W provided with two flat tip blades, one on each end of different sizes.

Does anyone have any data on these?
What they are and a time period?

Jim

I didn't notice any mention of the wood-handle sight adjustment tool. Here is a picture of one that was shipped with this 1899 nickel 4" target revolver. Another accessory with the gun is the front sight protector. Everything is original, including the box. Serial number is 1949, and the factory letter shows shipment in 1900, and says it was shipped with those accessories.



I can get better pictures of the SAT, if that helps.

Regards, Mike Priwer

handejector said:

Does anyone have any data on these?
What they are and a time period?

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My 1994 PC pistol has one without paint on the logo.

Looks as though H&K gets/got its tools from the same maker.
One is up for sale ($40 ) and the listing claims that it's made in Germany.

I bought two hollow handle SATs for $1500.00 each. I also sold one at the 2008 Annual for $3000.00. The ivory handle one I got for Christmas from Roy Jinks. He said he had four or five made at the factory. I don't think you can put a price on it.

Maybe one of these days I'll find a blue knurled one at a garage sale or something. I would love to have one to put in the gold box with my 1952 K-22 but I am just too cheap to pay what they are going for. I have other tools that will work if I actually need to make an adjustment.

UPDATE:

I was just gifted this from Don Mundell. I am overwhelmed.

I've sold several of the Blued Nine row Screwdrivers on eBay the last couple of year. They seem to sell in the $65-$75 range. I see people trying to sell them higher and those just sit on the site forever.

handejector said:

Jim,
My thoughts below each in {Bold Type}



* 1930 - 1941 - Some prewar target revolvers were shipped with a small steel-handled screwdriver. Originals of these have been seen to exchange hands on internet auctions for over $1000. Perhaps as a result of these prices these screwdrivers are being re-produced today using stainless steel handles. The manufacturers have been entirely honest in their aims and descriptions, but unscrupulous resellers may not be. Please ensure the screwdriver you are buying is the genuine article before you purchase.

{I am thinking leave value at $1000. I have not checked ebay for recent sales, but I doubt many will sell much higher than 1000. I may be wrong.}

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I have seen these for $1000.
I purchased one at this years symposium for $550.00

sceva said:

Maybe one of these days I'll find a blue knurled one at a garage sale or something. I would love to have one to put in the gold box with my 1952 K-22 but I am just too cheap to pay what they are going for. I have other tools that will work if I actually need to make an adjustment.

UPDATE:

I was just gifted this from Don Mundell. I am overwhelmed.

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I just acquired 2 K22/40's, one in the original box, and am now in the hunt for one of these.
I will letter these soon.

Jim,
1961-1964
I purchased one at this year's Symposium and paid $100.00.
S&W didn't make them for many years and they are very difficult to find.
Jake