10-shot "Grab and go" Remington 870!

[PALADIN85020]

A number of years ago I put together a 12-gauge Model 870 that I could grab quickly to address extreme self-defense situations.

Rounds on board: 10

Lighting for dark or dim environments: on the charging grip with lights-out cap.

Quick sighting: prominent front sight.

Reliability: excellent

Warning signal: shuck-shuck

I think it would settle pretty much any situation.

Anyone else done this?

John

 

[SmithNut]

....snip

Anyone else done this?

John

I was going to but couldn't decide which one to put the light on...

 

[rockquarry]

I was going to but couldn't decide which one to put the light on...

I find the plain unadorned 20" 870 12 ga. as it comes from the box works quite well. That's not a criticism of gadgetry guns.

 

[mckenney99]

The Mossberg 590 Shockwave hangs cruiser ready on the headboard in a scabbard. Federal's LE Premium "00" 9 pellet Buckshot with the Flight Control Wad.
The Rem 870 is kept cruiser ready in the bedroom closet safe. Also loaded with Federal's LE Premium "00" 9 pellet Buckshot with the Flight Control Wad.
I have come to really appreciate the Streamlight TL-Racker forend lights with 1000 lumens / 20,000 candela and no parasitic drain on the batteries when not in use.
Also the Federal LE Premium "00" Buckshot using the Flight Control Wad has to be patterned to believe how tightly it holds together. The 9 pellet is great but the 8 pellet load (when it can be found) is in a class by itself for how tightly patterns.

 

[Bald1]

How exactly are 10 rds carried aboard? Are they inside the stock ?

 

[kwill1911]

Kinda...

 

[SPEEDGUNNER]

"shuck-shuck"...music to my ears!!

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

The one in my bedroom has a light and no barrel extension. With a sling and a 6 shot nylon sleeve on the buttstock. It started life in an Akron Ohio PD Cruiser! Since moving to town, I switched to 1350 fps #7.5 shot, so as to not hurt the neighbors!

My favorite "Bump in the night" gun is my Winchester model 97 from 1904. 18 in barrel, 6 shot follower, and a tritium front bead. 97's have a third click in the cocking process, that for some reason seems to raise the terror level in thieves. At least the ones stealing at my farm!

Ivan

 

[Super Trucker]

I did until I read about multiple home invasions with multiple invaders and more than 10 rounds fired.

I dumped the shotgun and switched to an AR.

More rounds and nearly zero recoil so even the grandson could use if needed.

Before the closed minded "its only a myth" get started, here are the first page of links from a two second search.

The Statistics of Self-Defense: Don't Bet Your Life on Averages | An Official Journal Of The NRA

Five Multiple-Intruder Home Invasions in Four Days Prove Need for Standard Capacity Mags

https://crimeresearch.org/2020/10/t...e-had-fire-ten-or-more-shots-in-self-defense/

Harris County Texas Home Invasion & Manhunt: 5 Fast Facts

Houston crime: Home invasion sparks gunfight with suspects at SW Houston apartment - ABC13 Houston

I was searching for the 70+ round shootout in Texas during a home invasion. So that's why all the above are Texas but it happens near me several times a year also.

 

[PALADIN85020]

How exactly are 10 rds carried aboard? Are they inside the stock ?

Six in a row on the left side of the receiver and four in two spring-loaded cavities in the stock, one on each side. All can be quickly loaded. When I grab the gun, the ammo comes with it.

John

 

[PALADIN85020]

I did until I read about multiple home invasions with multiple invaders and more than 10 rounds fired.

I dumped the shotgun and switched to an AR.

More rounds and nearly zero recoil so even the grandson could use if needed.

Before the closed minded "its only a myth" get started, here are the first page of links from a two second search.

The Statistics of Self-Defense: Don't Bet Your Life on Averages | An Official Journal Of The NRA

Five Multiple-Intruder Home Invasions in Four Days Prove Need for Standard Capacity Mags

https://crimeresearch.org/2020/10/t...e-had-fire-ten-or-more-shots-in-self-defense/

Harris County Texas Home Invasion & Manhunt: 5 Fast Facts

Houston crime: Home invasion sparks gunfight with suspects at SW Houston apartment - ABC13 Houston

I was searching for the 70+ round shootout in Texas during a home invasion. So that's why all the above are Texas but it happens near me several times a year also.

I also have this option; loaded magazine quickly available.

John

 

[kwill1911]

Six a row on the left side of the receiver and four in two spring-loaded cavities in the stock, one on each side. All can be quickly loaded. When I grab the gun, the ammo comes with it.

John

What about the rounds in the magazine and chamber? It seems to me you can carry more than 10.

 

[gp52555]

Had an 870 bedside for years. Recently switched to a Ruger carbine in .45ACP with streamlight pro tac light, meprolight M22 red dot and 13 round magazines.

 

[cadmike]

Very nice John. I prefer them cruiser ready. No bulky shell carriers or lights.

 

[SweetMK]

I have never fired one,,
but, what about those "shorty shells" in 12 gauge,,

Does an 870 cycle them??
Wouldn't that almost double the magazine capacity??

You do not need full power rounds in a home defense situation,, do you??

(I am not a shotgun guru,, that is why I ask)

 

[Dio]

My understanding is that the Remington will not reliably feed or eject the 1&3/4" shells. The mossberg will but needs an adapter like the Op-Sol insert.

 

[ACORN]

The one in my bedroom has a light and no barrel extension. With a sling and a 6 shot nylon sleeve on the buttstock. It started life in an Akron Ohio PD Cruiser! Since moving to town, I switched to 1350 fps #7.5 shot, so as to not hurt the neighbors!

My favorite "Bump in the night" gun is my Winchester model 97 from 1904. 18 in barrel, 6 shot follower, and a tritium front bead. 97's have a third click in the cocking process, that for some reason seems to raise the terror level in thieves. At least the ones stealing at my farm!

Ivan

Ahh the venerable Model 97!
The 97 has a different sound when charging.
I like the way the guts,(bolt, lifter) come poking out.
I’ve owned 3 or 4 through the years but currently 97-less.
Zinc CAS shooting became a thing they have gone up in price and not commonly seen.

 

[chief38]

I have an 870 and a few others too but I am not interested in any light or electronic sights. Maybe I am in the minority here but I always want to literally remain in the dark and not give my position away at night with a light. IMHO, a bad guy will naturally shoot at the light or laser source - something I think is a bad situation. If you are aiming the gun then that means the light is right between your eyes - perfect head shot target for the bad guy!

My solution...... I have four 2 watt equivalent LED night lights strategically placed in our home. They are very very dim however because it's our home I know the layout - every square inch and my eyes would more than likely be adjusted to the dark - not his. An intruder does not know the layout and while the night lights would benefit me greatly, it would not do much for the bad guy. IMHO this is a better solution for me. Same case with a hand gun - no light or laser on it. I do have a small and powerful flashlight right next to my pistol to grab, but I would hold it out as far as my arm would go before turning it on if needed. Like police training did in the 70's and 80's.

IMHO, the light attached to a pistol is more about selling lights than self defense common sense - but I for one, am not buying all the hype! So is my theory a good one or a bad one? You decide.

 

[rockquarry]

I have an 870 and a few others too but I am not interested in any light or electronic sights. Maybe I am in the minority here but I always want to literally remain in the dark and not give my position away at night with a light. IMHO, a bad guy will naturally shoot at the light or laser source - something I think is a bad situation. If you are aiming the gun then that means the light is right between your eyes - perfect head shot target for the bad guy!

My solution...... I have four 2 watt equivalent LED night lights strategically placed in our home. They are very very dim however because it's our home I know the layout - every square inch and my eyes would more than likely be adjusted to the dark - not his. An intruder does not know the layout and while the night lights would benefit me greatly, it would not do much for the bad guy. IMHO this is a better solution for me. Same case with a hand gun - no light or laser on it. I do have a small and powerful flashlight right next to my pistol to grab, but I would hold it out as far as my arm would go before turning it on if needed. Like police training did in the 70's and 80's.

IMHO, the light attached to a pistol is more about selling lights than self defense common sense - but I for one, am not buying all the hype! So is my theory a good one or a bad one? You decide.

Good post that makes a lot of sense.

 

[dwh]

I recently a had post up about my Stevens 520 which now resides in the garage as the garage long gun. My tactical 870 with a light and a sidesaddle carrier in the bedroom and a 16in Rossi 92 357mag in the basement. I’d rather fight with a long gun if possible. But want no fight at all if possible.