Andy Griffith
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Does anyone have a suggestion on .30 carbine handgun loads?
.30 carbine handgun loads?
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turnejm
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Ruger Blackhawk 30 M1 Carbine Load
Andy,
The Speer #14 lists a load for the 30M1 Carbine round as:
For the 110gr Jacketed HP and RN SP - Unique 4.5 to 5.5 gr. 779 to 945 fps. using Small Rifle Standard primers ( #CCI 400).
Ought to be pleasant round to shoot!
I would think that a "medium" load for a 32 H&R Mag would work well in this cartridge:
W231/HP38 3.4 - 3.9gr. for a 100gr JHP. gives approx. 892 - 991 fps.
Being that the 30M1 brass is slightly longer and slightly smaller in diameter than the 32 H&R brass, the ballistics will be very similar! The SAAMI pressure specs for the 32 Mag are much lower than the 30M1 carbine round, Should be a pleasure to shoot!
Obviously, this kind of thinking is for a revolver or single shot pistol, not for the M1 Carbine...
YMMV!
Andy,
The Speer #14 lists a load for the 30M1 Carbine round as:
For the 110gr Jacketed HP and RN SP - Unique 4.5 to 5.5 gr. 779 to 945 fps. using Small Rifle Standard primers ( #CCI 400).
Ought to be pleasant round to shoot!
I would think that a "medium" load for a 32 H&R Mag would work well in this cartridge:
W231/HP38 3.4 - 3.9gr. for a 100gr JHP. gives approx. 892 - 991 fps.
Being that the 30M1 brass is slightly longer and slightly smaller in diameter than the 32 H&R brass, the ballistics will be very similar! The SAAMI pressure specs for the 32 Mag are much lower than the 30M1 carbine round, Should be a pleasure to shoot!
Obviously, this kind of thinking is for a revolver or single shot pistol, not for the M1 Carbine...
YMMV!
If the loads are for a Thomson single shot you can use
heavier loads and also use the better rifle bullets with
a higher BC , improved tips and even a boat tail design.
A 110 SP has a BC of around .273 vs a RN of .144.
You might also take a look at the Speer 100 gr #1805
and Hornady #3005 100gr SJ .308 bullets for light target
work and 50 yard tin cans.
heavier loads and also use the better rifle bullets with
a higher BC , improved tips and even a boat tail design.
A 110 SP has a BC of around .273 vs a RN of .144.
You might also take a look at the Speer 100 gr #1805
and Hornady #3005 100gr SJ .308 bullets for light target
work and 50 yard tin cans.
For a Ruger, and any specific purpose? Have started reloading for a Ruger and have good luck with Hdy .309 90 grain xtp. Win brass, Fed small rifle primer and h-110 charges from their manual. The specific pistol has a lesser than usual firing pin protrusion, and had to be careful about other older cases and deeper primer pockets and min case lengths. Winchester cases and not trimming to min length fixed the problem, but may be common to other Rugers?
Even with Hornady 110 fmj, it is a blast to shoot. The hdy fmj were also extremely accurate, maybe the exposed lead base?
Pistol is extremely accurate, but am doubting regular 110 grain soft points ability to expand.
Even with Hornady 110 fmj, it is a blast to shoot. The hdy fmj were also extremely accurate, maybe the exposed lead base?
Pistol is extremely accurate, but am doubting regular 110 grain soft points ability to expand.
Bruce51
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Previous posting
Here's a link to a previous discussion about loads in a Blackhawk.
Since the last time I posted this info I found that five grains of Unique with a cast bullet was causing to much leading in my gun. So I went down to 4.8 grains which is much better accuracy wise with less leading.
It is still best to use small rifle primers even with these reduced loads.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/281078-30-carbine-load-data.html
Bruce
Here's a link to a previous discussion about loads in a Blackhawk.
Since the last time I posted this info I found that five grains of Unique with a cast bullet was causing to much leading in my gun. So I went down to 4.8 grains which is much better accuracy wise with less leading.
It is still best to use small rifle primers even with these reduced loads.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/reloading/281078-30-carbine-load-data.html
Bruce
jepp2
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I shoot lead in my Blackhawk with no leading at all. But to get there I had to enlarge the cylinder throats and I recut the forcing cone to 11 degrees. I use SNS hard cast bullets. I load to around 22K PSI. I can share specific load data if you like.
It makes a very nice shooting load for low cost.
It makes a very nice shooting load for low cost.
Ivan the Butcher
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Years ago I had a Blackhawk in 30 Carbine. Military ammo was hot, loud, the cases stuck, and not very accurate. But the brass made great reloads and I found that the 115-117 grain Lyman cast bullet (my mould has GC) made a very fine load. There are carbide dies available to keep things simple. This is a fine round for target, plinking and small game hunting. I always thought it would be OK for self-defense with the proper bullet selection. For the hand gun load I preferred, IMR or H 4227 over H110/WW296. I have thought about WW231 or Trail Boss loads for mild work (it would be very much like a 32-20 Win). Ivan
