329pd and Master Revolver Action Package

[K1500]

Has anyone done the "Master Revolver Action Package" on a scandium gun (329pd/Night Guard, etc)? I am considering getting this package done, but S&W claims in a letter:
"Action will still feel heavy compared to steel frame guns"
"Cannot chamfer charge holes"

I understand the charge holes (titanium cyl.) but I am not sure if the action work is worth the $145 on a scandium gun. If it only slightly improves the action, I'll live with it as is, but if it significantly improves the action, I'll drop the money. Any first hand experience on this? Thanks.

 

[westkybanded]

Have you tried slicking up the action yourself? How many thousands of dry fires have you done with it?

As far as chamfering the charge holes, that doesn't make any sense that they couldn't do it. You can cut them for moon clips...

 

[WC145]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure Pinnacle could chamfer the charge holes for you, a nice action job too. Mark did the work on one of my scandium guns, you should check him out.
Pinnacle-Guns.com: Pinnacle High Performance Custom Gunsmithing

 

[pinkymingeo]

In my experience the ti/scan guns don't need action jobs. They're plenty smooth, but the springs are heavy. Install a Wolff reduced power main spring, 14lb rebound spring and Apex firing pin for reliability with the lighter springs. You'll be very happy.

 

[K1500]

That's it, smooth but heavy. It is at S&W for a second warranty issue right now.

#1 was FTF due to short firing pin (they replaced it, fixed endshake, and R&R yoke).
#2 is ejector rod runout (it was rubbing on the barrel shroud). this problem cropped up when it came back from Smith after problem #1.

The heavy pull feels like springs, and I am reluctant to change them due to the previous FTF problem. Truth be told, I am a bit reluctant to get a MRAP from S&W if they lighten springs. The thing needs to go bang every time. I think I'll have them send it back and save the $$.

To answer the dryfiring question, not very many times. I need to get some snap caps, since I don't know if S&W uses the C&S or Apex extended firing pin (or one of their own design).

 

[magnum12pm]

I have the 327PD, heavy trigger pull for sure, well over 12lb.. I put the Wolf standard power main spring in it, which is lighter than factory standard power spring. I then used a 16 pound rebound. I recommend dry firing as stated above. Many folks want to use the lightest springs they can get their hands on, then must use longer firing pins Ect. It is commonly believed that the lighter the trigger pull the better you shoot, not necessarily true. If you go to light on rebound spring it may not reset the trigger properly, especially if you are fast on the trigger....Now the hard part: You have everyones opinion, now you must decide for yourself.

 

[WC145]

I have the 327PD, heavy trigger pull for sure, well over 12lb.. I put the Wolf standard power main spring in it, which is lighter than factory standard power spring. I then used a 16 pound rebound. I recommend dry firing as stated above. Many folks want to use the lightest springs they can get their hands on, then must use longer firing pins Ect. It is commonly believed that the lighter the trigger pull the better you shoot, not necessarily true. If you go to light on rebound spring it may not reset the trigger properly, especially if you are fast on the trigger....Now the hard part: You have everyones opinion, now you must decide for yourself.

Did the Wolff main spring make any appreciable difference? I know their site says it'll smooth the trigger pull, get rid os stacking, etc., but how did it feel to you? I was thinking of trying one in a 315 but I'd like a users perspective before I do. The trigger is pretty smooth, but heavy with a lot of stacking. I'd like to have a more "steady" pull, closer to the same weight all the way through.

 

[epj]

Did the Wolff main spring make any appreciable difference? I know their site says it'll smooth the trigger pull, get rid os stacking, etc., but how did it feel to you? I was thinking of trying one in a 315 but I'd like a users perspective before I do. The trigger is pretty smooth, but heavy with a lot of stacking. I'd like to have a more "steady" pull, closer to the same weight all the way through.

I just put a Wolff kit in a 627. I used their mainspring and cut the 14# spring by a couple of coils. Trigger is much nicer, but not as nice as my 686. Very reliable so far. No trouble with trigger reset. I cut the 14# spring so I could save the 13#'er if it didn't work out. My 686 has the 13# spring trimmed a couple of coils. Both have been extensivly tested with CCI primed ammo and function 100%.

 

[K1500]

Since their quote was less than glowing, and they can't chamfer the charge holes, I told them to send it back to me as it. I don't need nor do I care for an overtravel stop on a defensive firearm, and they don't change the springs with the MRAP. All that's left is the polishing, and I seriously doubt that would reduce the pull enough to make a significant difference. In any event, dry fire will polish the internals as well. It is currently smooth but heavy and it must work with CCI's, so I'm going to live with it.

 

[WC145]

Like I posted before, I'm sure Pinnacle can chamfer the charge holes for you, and all you have to do is send him your cylinder.

 

[magnum12pm]

Did the Wolff main spring make any appreciable difference? I know their site says it'll smooth the trigger pull, get rid os stacking, etc., but how did it feel to you? I was thinking of trying one in a 315 but I'd like a users perspective before I do. The trigger is pretty smooth, but heavy with a lot of stacking. I'd like to have a more "steady" pull, closer to the same weight all the way through.

The double action trigger pull is 9lb. 3oz., it is smooth all the way through which makes it feel like less than 9. The single action pull is 3lb. 13oz. I use the 16 pound rebound because if you shoot fast such as in match or just rapid fire on the timer for fun as my cousin and I do you can out run the trigger reset with a quick finger, meaning your finger is forward waiting on trigger. Now on the other had if you stage your trigger pull it would not matter much which spring you use if lightest trigger pull is your goal. I don't do a lot of rapid fire with the 327PD, but I want the same rebound spring in it to match up with my 686SSR and Model 60....