3rd gen finish and MIM vs Chrome

[BruceB]

908 = 9mm Value Line Single Stack gun with 8 round magazine.
909 = 9mm Value Line Single Stack gun with 9 round magazine.
915 = 9mm Value Line Double Stack gun with 15 round magazine.
910 = 9mm Value Line Double Stack gun with stupid Clinton 10 round magazine, but oddly enough a 15 round magazine fits just fine thank you.

And so on. 457...

And don't forget models like the 908 were available in both aluminium and stainless frames (908S)

And Chief's Specials like CS40 were also made in various finishes; black, natural, and two-tone

 

[John_M52]

I need one one each CS9D, CS40D, CS45D in each finish.

 

[Dino1]

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No reason whatsoever.

In fact, most people like the look of the silver parts.

Some folks will even go so far as to replace the MIM hammer and trigger with the chromed components just for esthetic reasons.

It is true that the MIM hammer will typically provide a smoother double action trigger pull because the MIM hammer is usually smoother than the machined hammer where the sear drags across it during the double action pull, but a machined hammer can be smoothed in that area to provide as good a double action pull as the MIM hammer.



You're welcome!

John[/QUOTE]

Not all 3rd Gen guns have MIM parts, I have a NOS 4506 that has a build date of April 2000 that has non of the MIM parts from the factory. I believe it is a transition gun because it does not have the frame cut out above the trigger, I have seen this on other examples with the same serial prefix (TEU).

 

[Jeppo]

I need one one each CS9D, CS40D, CS45D in each finish.

That's challenging. I'm 4/6 of the way there and stuck.

 

[JohnHL]

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No reason whatsoever.

In fact, most people like the look of the silver parts.

Some folks will even go so far as to replace the MIM hammer and trigger with the chromed components just for esthetic reasons.

It is true that the MIM hammer will typically provide a smoother double action trigger pull because the MIM hammer is usually smoother than the machined hammer where the sear drags across it during the double action pull, but a machined hammer can be smoothed in that area to provide as good a double action pull as the MIM hammer.



You're welcome!

John

Not all 3rd Gen guns have MIM parts, I have a NOS 4506 that has a build date of April 2000 that has non of the MIM parts from the factory. I believe it is a transition gun because it does not have the frame cut out above the trigger, I have seen this on other examples with the same serial prefix (TEU).[/QUOTE]

Yes, it is well known that MIM parts didn't start showing up on 3rd gen pistols until circa 1994.

That configuration of frame and components makes me highly skeptical of April, 2000 production (possibly shipment?) but I never say never with S&W.

John

 

[Dino1]

I need to maybe correct my build date to April 1990. Box reflects 0116. Does this sound right? I know it was a NOS gun, had not been fired, or if it had it only had a mag put through it. The Mags that came with the gun had never been loaded, and the spare was still in the paper. The breach face of the gun was spotless as well as other components in the gun. No slide wear marks at all. It was defiantly a rare find for a pistol of it's age.

 

[JohnHL]

April, 1990 feels right for that configuration, Dino.

John

 

[Dino1]

Before I posted I should of done my homework, the pistol came with all the paperwork, tools, and cleaning kit, and the original box. My research shows that the transition gun is a little bit of a rare breed. Not having the frame cut, same frame as the 10mm and no MIM parts is a plus on desirability. My favorite in my collection is a Kimber Compact Custom, they only made just over 2000 of them with the configuration mine is in over a four year period. Never fired new in box. At the same time I bought it I purchased a Kimber Eclipse Target, the first series 70. New in box never fired. I shoot this one and it is a laser with the adjustable target sights. It is actually my favorite 1911 to shoot, as well as anyone who put it in their mits and shoots it, truly an amazing gun to shoot. And a couple of my friends are 1911 snobs owning high end EB's and DW's and other various makes not as common.

 

[RedCardinal]

Yep, the 6906 ought to have been named a 6913 if they'd wanted to be consistent with how they'd properly named their 3913. The 6904 would've been a 6914 (like the 3914).

The 469/669 made more sense, in a way.

Never Say Never with the fanciful decisions made by them, though. Kept everyone guessing.

The 908 & 909?? Ask Carnac the Magnificent ...

So how about the 4040? I think Franke N. Stien was in charge of naming the models.

 

[Sevens]

And don't forget models like the 908 were available in both aluminium and stainless frames (908S)

And Chief's Specials like CS40 were also made in various finishes; black, natural, and two-tone

Careful here… that frame was definitely NOT stainless, it was merely a silver colored aluminum alloy frame, like the 3913.

 

[mrmike7189]

Please don't start with the value lines, I'm trying to concentrate on spending money on all metal parts.

The "value line guns " are just as confusing as the mainstream models. The 908/909/910/410 all have plastic parts.
The 915/411 do NOT.....ALL METAL.

 

[S&W Fan]

One reason I love my 4567. Limited production model from 1991, blue carbon steel slide, stainless frame, made pre-mim parts. And it's a ton of fun to shoot lol. Oh and factory night sights too (though these were recently refreshed by Trijicon ).